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From: Marion <marion@facts.com>
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Subject: Re: What is wrong with the Apple trolls that they can't comprehend facts
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 17:35:07 -0000 (UTC)
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On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 13:05:41 -0400, Tom Elam wrote :


>> Tell us all which of the seven facts I stated above you claim to be wrong.
> 
> Point by point

FACT:

Apple full hotfix support is the worst in the industry, by far.

The reason you Apple trolls are always dead wrong is you're herd animals.
You don't actually UNDERSTAND anything. You just go with the herd.

Your whole lives you've been told you were stupid, so, to adapt, as a
coping mechanism, all you Apple trolls simply followed the herd.

None of you can comprehend there's a *DIFFERENCE* between these things:
1. FULL hotfix support (versus random occasional bugfix support)
2. A written legal promise of FULL support (versus partial support)
3. FULL support for a SINGLE release at a time (versus multiple releases)
4. Actual EXPLOITS in the wild versus malware that nobody is using

> 1. The fact that Apple published their iOS support which is five years?
> 
> That is the minumum, actual is more, and equal to Samsung
> 
> https://www.knowyourmobile.com/user-guides/iphone/how-long-does-apple-support-iphones-complete-update-list/#:~:text=Apple%20offers%206-8%20years%20of%20iOS%20updates%2C%20surpassing,demands%2C%20ending%20support%20%E2%80%93%20find%20out%20why%20here.

See above. You Apple trolls can't figure out there's a difference between
FULL PROMISED WRITTEN LEGALLY BINDING support, versus random support.

The FULL PROMISED WRITTEN LEGALLY BINDING support is the following:
A. Apple iOS = 5 years, one release at a time only!
B. Google Pixel = 7 years, multiple releases simultaneously
C. Samsung S series = 7 years, multiple releases simultaneously

FACT: Apple's full hotfix support is the worst in the industry.
 
> 2. Or the fact that Google/Samsung published theirs, which is seven?
> 
> True, but equal to Apple actual

Only an Apple troll would claim 5 years of full support and one release at
a time is "equal" to 7 years and multiple releases at a time.

The fact is Apple's full hotfix support is the worst in the industry.

> 
> 3. Or the fact that CISA shows iOS to have far more exploits than Android?
> 
> Exploits <> harm

Those are *real* exploits in the wild for God's sake. That's harm.

The reason it's important that iOS is far more insecure than Android is all
you Apple troll herd animals believe only in the propagnada from Apple.

The fact is iOS is the most exploited operating system in the industry.

> 4. Or the fact that Apple only fully supports one OS release at a time?
> 
> Not true, iOS gets updates to all versions. Android does not update 
> versions that cannot support new feature.

Jesus Christ. Nobody is as stupid as you Apple trolls are. Nobody.
Even Apple says they've never fully supported more than one release at a
time in their entire history. Only an Apple troll would claim otherwise.

 <https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>
 <https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases>
 <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>

The link to Apple's own document proving this fact is in those cites.

> 5. Or the fact that every other OS vendor fully supports more than one?
> 
> Support with citations

Jesus Christ. Seriously. Nobody is as ignorant as you Apple trolls.
The Samsung & Google cites clearly say MULTIPLE releases of full support.
Windows clearly supports multiple releases of full support.

Apple's own document clearly says they have never in their entire history
ever fully supported more than a single release at a time.

Only you Apple trolls would claim Apple lied about their own support.
 *Distinguishing software updates from upgrades*
 <https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/>

> 6. Or the fact that Android overall has more malware than iOS does?
> 
> This is very true, thanks for admitting.

Of course Android has more malware than iOS given iOS is designed as a dumb
terminal devoid of the ability to do anything without logging into Apple's
servers.

A dumb terminal doesn't actually do anything on its own, so of course
there's more malware on every other operating system than on iOS. 

You can't even run the Tor browser on iOS for Heaven's sake. 
Nor can you do any graphical wi-fi or cellular debugging.
You can't even change the launcher. Or change the default messenger.
You can't even spoof GPS for God's sake.

Since you have to get your extremely limited apps from only the iOS Apple
Store, of course there's less malware. But also no useful functionality.

Android users are not herd animals afraid of everything that is out there.


> 7. Or the fact that Android 10+ is updated ~monthly via Project Mainline?
> 
> Project Mainline brings Android close to the standard set by Apple. It 
> helps fix OS fragmentation issues for key OS components. It is not an 
> advantage over iOS, it addresses a weakness.

The fact you think that Mainline brings Android close to Apple means you're
completely ignorant that the RSR mechanism (aka hotfix) only came to iOS in
iOS 16. Note that every other OS has had hotfixes since day one.
 *iOS RSR patches* (only available in iOS16+):
 <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201224>

The point with Mainline/Treble is that dozens of Android core packages are
updated every single month for *billions* of Android phones over the net.

We're on Android 15 now, and they're *still* updating Android 10 and up!
Every single month. Every single Android phone. 

Meanwhile, iOS is a single release for full hotfix support, and any device
only gets a legal promise of a puny five years of full hotfix support.

In summary, it's obvious by the facts that Apple's support is the worst.
It's clear you Apple trolls can't even figure out the difference between:
1. FULL hotfix support (versus random occasional bugfix support)
2. A written legal promise of FULL support (versus partial support)
3. FULL support for a SINGLE release at a time (versus multiple releases)
4. Actual EXPLOITS in the wild versus malware that nobody is using