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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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Subject: Re: Kelo won't be reversed
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 18:37:17 -0000 (UTC)
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BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>Mar 26, 2025 at 11:41:03 PM PDT, Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:

>>Note that I'm in the minority on Usenet in never condemning Stevens'
>>decision in Kelo v. City of New London Connecticut. Also, the Connecticut
>>constitution has a takings clause:

>>	SEC. 11. The property of no person shall be taken for public
>>	use, without just compensation therefor.

>>"Public use" doesn't mean "land the public will use" but that the stated
>>public purpose in state law fulfilled the constitutional requirement.

>Worst SCOTUS decision in modern history.

That lets state legislatures off the hook who wrote those unjust laws in
the first place.

>>Government action chooses winners and losers, like a public road
>>being built (perhaps the right of way was acquired by taking) so that
>>a particular parcel of land may be developed or directing building
>>improvements at one public school but not another.

>>In New London, the development was never built.

>>The Institute for Justice represented a developer in a case in New York
>>in which the facts were even more egregious than in Kelo.

>>Bowers v. Oneida County Industrial Development Agency

>>Petition for certiorari denied on March 24, 2025

>>They intended to develop land across from a new hospital for a medical
>>office building. A competing developer had purchased a nearby parcel to
>>develop their own medical office building and wanted this parcel for a
>>parking lot so they had the government take it.

>>47 states have amended their eminent domain statutes to make it more
>>difficult to take property that doesn't directly benefit the public.
>>That's what Stevens said was the right way to handle the issue.

>Why? Unlike issues like abortion, the federal Constitution directly addresses
>this issue in Amendment V. This isn't something that's properly the domain of
>the states.

The takings clause doesn't address all related issues such as eminent
domain. It doesn't address rights in property at all although the due
process clause in Amendment V does to a small extent. There's no "negative
taking" whether or not it's implied, that is, a taking is prohibited if
it's not for public use.

We've seen a handful of cases in which attorneys have successfully argued
that police or government actions destroyed property and that therefore
the property was taken for public use and the owner is entitled to just
compensation.

That use of "public use" is not "the public shall have access to the
property" as the appellants in Kelo argued or I.J. would have
argued had Bowers been granted cert.

If "public use" were ever so narrowly defined by federal courts, then
there goes the limited property owner's right to just compensation
deprivation of property in non-public use situations.