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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: bart <bc@freeuk.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Integral types and own type definitions (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 20:06:02 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <vs4b3a$10uj1$1@dont-email.me> References: <vrd77d$3nvtf$2@dont-email.me> <vreuj1$1asii$4@dont-email.me> <vreve4$19klp$2@dont-email.me> <20250319201903.00005452@yahoo.com> <86r02roqdq.fsf@linuxsc.com> <vrh1br$35029$2@dont-email.me> <LRUCP.2$541.0@fx47.iad> <vrh71t$3be42$1@dont-email.me> <KFVCP.594649$SZca.498578@fx13.iad> <vrhb77$3frk8$1@dont-email.me> <vrru8f$174q6$1@dont-email.me> <86o6xpk8sn.fsf@linuxsc.com> <vrtmu4$2s1q2$1@dont-email.me> <20250325011327.41@kylheku.com> <20250325131110.000056bd@yahoo.com> <86bjtpjp22.fsf@linuxsc.com> <vruid4$3iuvq$1@dont-email.me> <87iknw7sz8.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vs0e6r$1avlb$2@dont-email.me> <87sen05cza.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vs4324$od4j$1@dont-email.me> <87y0wqw9re.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 21:06:02 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6b10fbff2d36498b2c29dbeed3bd25bc"; logging-data="1079905"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18VB7xMmktHnjIOeug18tKG" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:bTlpld2JyWTVv9It850JPNU05IA= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <87y0wqw9re.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> Bytes: 3336 On 27/03/2025 19:31, Keith Thompson wrote: > James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> writes: >> On 3/26/25 05:59, Keith Thompson wrote: >>> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes: >>> [...] >>>> Sure. But most people have forgotten such details long ago - negative >>>> numbers are not part of daily life (except as an indicator of how much >>>> you owe the bank...). After all, negative numbers are not natural! >>> >>> Most people understand credits and debits. >> From my experience, most do not. In particular, if you gave them >> examples of a transaction and the relevant accounts, they would have no >> idea which accounts should be debited, and which should be credited. > > Sure, most people don't understand double-entry bookkeepping. I was > thinking of simpler concepts. Depositing money increases your bank > account balance, withdrawing money decreases it, withdrawing too > much can result in a negative balance, and so on. A checking account > or credit card statement shows numbers with or without a "-" symbol. > > Most of us here are probably in the top 10% of the general population > in terms of mathematical knowledge, and it can be difficult to know > how much knowledge most people have. But I think that most people > have a decent basic understanding of positive and negative numbers. > As I mentioned recently, temperatures might have been a better > example. > > And this is *way* off-topic. > That didn't stop you having your say first /then/ declaring it as way off-topic!