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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD specifies recursive emulation to HHH and halting to HHH1 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 18:40:31 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <vs4nlf$1c1ja$4@dont-email.me> References: <vrfuob$256og$1@dont-email.me> <vrq330$3dq3n$1@dont-email.me> <e7268e8ef47579cacb49b0533d51549a77eb0b96@i2pn2.org> <vrqb6f$3k9kh$2@dont-email.me> <3f250e699762cfe6fccc844f10eb04f32d470b6a@i2pn2.org> <vrrpcl$11a56$4@dont-email.me> <8423998561d8feee807509b0ed6335123d35a7c9@i2pn2.org> <vrt3gv$264jb$4@dont-email.me> <448c82acff6b5fc1d2aa266be92df6f778ec2c6a@i2pn2.org> <vru5tp$38ob9$1@dont-email.me> <ac61f679d7ddb39b0ceaedd7f562899d36346535@i2pn2.org> <vrvccp$aq8m$3@dont-email.me> <e166831a8e02332d64ec151f61481e2629e6e53a@i2pn2.org> <vrvsh4$p4vd$2@dont-email.me> <c93030bbd81fb313c76c256c6e54beb48b07dfdd@i2pn2.org> <vs1vuv$2ot1m$1@dont-email.me> <d2f86fad6c5823e3c098f30d331576c52263b398@i2pn2.org> <vs2fgn$354gv$5@dont-email.me> <61f821b5a18046ab36ddb6c52a003b574cf34de6@i2pn2.org> <vs2hnm$38lvq$1@dont-email.me> <9be1ff2af6bbf405565b27bc8211adf9f353e9f2@i2pn2.org> <vs44b6$qjc3$1@dont-email.me> <3ff8345ef2ddb51594c67cf7f5cbb81f696afbc5@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 00:40:32 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c3826c8f357adb38be8b9ef5898c2054"; logging-data="1443434"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+sFUZrlku2LyWA0DpqZAHM" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:0g/t/9b6CjefoLFbmYSvkYclkVg= Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250327-8, 3/27/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <3ff8345ef2ddb51594c67cf7f5cbb81f696afbc5@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3295 On 3/27/2025 4:56 PM, joes wrote: > Am Thu, 27 Mar 2025 13:10:46 -0500 schrieb olcott: >> On 3/27/2025 6:02 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 3/26/25 11:47 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 3/26/2025 10:28 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 3/26/25 11:09 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 3/26/2025 8:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > >>>>>>> Non-Halting is that the machine won't reach its final staste even >>>>>>> if an unbounded number of steps are emulated. Since HHH doesn't do >>>>>>> that, it isn't showing non-halting. >>>>>> DDD emulated by any HHH will never reach its final state in an >>>>>> unbounded number of steps. >>>>> But DDD emulated by an actually correct emulator will, >>>> If you were not intentionally persisting in a lie you would >>>> acknowledge the dead obvious that DDD emulated by HHH according to the >>>> semantics of the x86 language cannot possibly correctly reach its >>>> final halt state. > Yes, HHH is not a correct simulator. > In other words you either disagree with the x86 language or don't have a clue about it. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer