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From: dbush <dbush.mobile@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DDD specifies recursive emulation to HHH and halting to HHH1
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 20:12:58 -0400
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On 3/27/2025 8:11 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 3/27/2025 7:02 PM, dbush wrote:
>> On 3/27/2025 7:36 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 3/27/2025 1:27 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>> On 3/27/2025 1:50 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 3/27/2025 2:18 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>> Op 27.mrt.2025 om 04:09 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>> On 3/26/2025 8:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>>>> [00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec       mov  ebp,esp  ; housekeeping
>>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404     add  esp,+04
>>>>>>> [00002182] 5d         pop  ebp
>>>>>>> [00002183] c3         ret
>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Non-Halting is that the machine won't reach its final staste 
>>>>>>>> even if an unbounded number of steps are emulated. Since HHH 
>>>>>>>> doesn't do that, it isn't showing non-halting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DDD emulated by any HHH will never reach its final state
>>>>>>> in an unbounded number of steps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DDD emulated by HHH1 reaches its final state in a finite
>>>>>>> number of steps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is not very interesting to know whether a simulator reports 
>>>>>> that it is unable to reach the end of the simulation of a program 
>>>>>> that halts in direct execution.
>>>>>
>>>>> That IS NOT what HHH is reporting.
>>>>> HHH correctly rejects DDD because DDD correctly
>>>>> emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own
>>>>> final halt state.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, HHH is not a halt decider because it is not 
>>>> computing the required mapping:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Troll
>>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 3:19:42 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
>>  > In other words you could find any error in my post so you resort to 
>> the
>>  > lame tactic of ad hominem personal attack.
>>
> 
> Troll
> 

On 7/22/2024 10:51 AM, olcott wrote:
 > *Ad Hominem attacks are the first resort of clueless wonders*