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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DDD specifies recursive emulation to HHH and halting to HHH1
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 20:07:09 -0500
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On 3/27/2025 7:38 PM, dbush wrote:
> On 3/27/2025 8:34 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 3/27/2025 7:12 PM, dbush wrote:
>>> On 3/27/2025 8:11 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 3/27/2025 7:02 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>> On 3/27/2025 7:36 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/27/2025 1:27 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/27/2025 1:50 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 3/27/2025 2:18 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Op 27.mrt.2025 om 04:09 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/26/2025 8:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>>>>>>> [00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec       mov  ebp,esp  ; housekeeping
>>>>>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>>>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>>>>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404     add  esp,+04
>>>>>>>>>> [00002182] 5d         pop  ebp
>>>>>>>>>> [00002183] c3         ret
>>>>>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Non-Halting is that the machine won't reach its final staste 
>>>>>>>>>>> even if an unbounded number of steps are emulated. Since HHH 
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't do that, it isn't showing non-halting.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> DDD emulated by any HHH will never reach its final state
>>>>>>>>>> in an unbounded number of steps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> DDD emulated by HHH1 reaches its final state in a finite
>>>>>>>>>> number of steps.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is not very interesting to know whether a simulator reports 
>>>>>>>>> that it is unable to reach the end of the simulation of a 
>>>>>>>>> program that halts in direct execution.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That IS NOT what HHH is reporting.
>>>>>>>> HHH correctly rejects DDD because DDD correctly
>>>>>>>> emulated by HHH cannot possibly reach its own
>>>>>>>> final halt state.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In other words, HHH is not a halt decider because it is not 
>>>>>>> computing the required mapping:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Troll
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 3:19:42 PM UTC-5, olcott wrote:
>>>>>  > In other words you could find any error in my post so you resort 
>>>>> to the
>>>>>  > lame tactic of ad hominem personal attack.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Troll
>>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/22/2024 10:51 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>  > *Ad Hominem attacks are the first resort of clueless wonders*
>>>
>>
>> I corrected your error dozens of times and you
>> ignore these corrections and mindlessly repeat
>> your error like a bot 
> 
> Which is what you've been doing for the last three years.
> 
> Projection, as always.  I'll add the above to the list.
> 

TM's cannot possibly ever report on the behavior
of the direct execution of another TM. I proved
this many times in may ways. Ignoring these proofs
IT NOT ANY FORM OF REBUTTAL.

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