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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: The integral type 'byte' (was Re: Suggested method for returning a string from a C program?) Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 13:00:12 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: <vs630c$2m8r2$1@dont-email.me> References: <vrd77d$3nvtf$2@dont-email.me> <vrdhok$47cb$2@dont-email.me> <20250319115550.0000676f@yahoo.com> <vreuj1$1asii$4@dont-email.me> <vreve4$19klp$2@dont-email.me> <20250319201903.00005452@yahoo.com> <86r02roqdq.fsf@linuxsc.com> <vrh1br$35029$2@dont-email.me> <LRUCP.2$541.0@fx47.iad> <vrh71t$3be42$1@dont-email.me> <vrh9vh$3ev9o$1@dont-email.me> <vrhct4$3frk8$2@dont-email.me> <20250320204642.0000423a@yahoo.com> <vrhphb$3s62l$1@dont-email.me> <87iko3s3h2.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vrrvgp$1828d$1@dont-email.me> <874izi82a4.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vrttin$321rm$1@dont-email.me> <vrus18$3srn9$1@dont-email.me> <vruttb$3tpl0$1@dont-email.me> <vrv15d$1gs4$1@dont-email.me> <vs0kv7$1hb4h$2@dont-email.me> <vs11oi$1tp3r$1@dont-email.me> <vs1b8b$24nub$5@dont-email.me> <vs1ftc$2a7cq$1@dont-email.me> <vs225e$2pgqi$1@dont-email.me> <vs2ctp$34jvu$1@dont-email.me> <vs3bvj$489m$1@dont-email.me> <vs4sln$1haaa$1@dont-email.me> <vs5p85$2cucj$1@dont-email.me> <vs5ta3$2hbcf$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 13:00:19 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2d3aa20cc6d3d8f05810bfc1b507b87c"; logging-data="2827106"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/NO5ywboI7PhTa5zDxGRld4Q4TlSQSSOY=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:NLN4ffp8E8nRyyhlLm3X/lGf/Go= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <vs5ta3$2hbcf$1@dont-email.me> On 28/03/2025 11:22, Janis Papanagnou wrote: > On 28.03.2025 10:13, David Brown wrote: >> [...] > >>> [ NS32032 ] >> >> Indeed. After all, the 68k was one of the most successful ISAs ever, >> and the x86 "won" for economic reasons, not technical reasons. The >> NS32000, on the other hand, is known only to a few nerds. [...] > > Given that it did not "survive" in the first place I was astonished > that when I spoke with IT professionals in the past it was mentioned > as outstanding (compared to a lot of other alternatives these days). The 68k was outstanding. The NS32000 had a lot of similarities to the 68k. Therefore, compared to a lot of /other/ architectures around, it too was outstanding. Compared to the 68k, however, it was nothing special - no doubt there were some pros and some cons. > I was also astonished that bart had it in his short-list. So I'm not > inclined to accept your words that it's "known only to a few nerds". > (It's not necessarily the best technologies that "survive".) YMMV. > Bart is a nerd of rare quality. (I mean that in a good way.) It does not surprise me that he is familiar with it. Remember that while the NS32000 died away fairly quickly, when it was around it was a reasonably well-known alternative to the bigger names. Someone looking for a powerful cpu and not burdened by compatibility restraints, could just as well have picked it rather than a 68k device. At that time, no one knew it would die away from the scene. So people involved in designing computer equipment at that time - such as Bart - would know of it and may well have used it.