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From: Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Encryption comes to RCS at last on iPhones.
Date: 28 Mar 2025 20:13:24 GMT
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Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-03-28 19:31, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 2025-03-27 10:32, Arno Welzel wrote:
> >>> Jörg Lorenz, 2025-03-26 15:36:
> >>>
> >>>> On 26.03.25 14:10, Arno Welzel wrote:
> >>>>> Jörg Lorenz, 2025-03-24 21:40:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 24.03.25 14:31, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> >>>>>>> I don't see the link. You said "RCS is forbidden as well", which is
> >>>>>>> different of "not supported".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I repeat it for you and Arlen: Nobody needs RCS and in particular nobody
> >>>>>> wants it. It is an inferior and insecure service. Full stop.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> E-Mail is also insecure and still used world wide nevertheless.
> >>>>
> >>>> Asymmetric encryption for e-mail exists.
> >>>> OpenPGP und S/MIME are much more powerful than anything these messengers
> >>>> offer.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, but both are not used widely used since encryption is optional for
> >>> e-mail and not mandatory.
> >>
> >> Normal people find it difficult to use. I have only succeeded using it
> >> it with computer geeks, not with lawyers or banks.
> > 
> >    Just attach the .eml file in a WhatsApp message! :-)
> 
> Hum! No idea if whatsapp encrypts attachments. Not all email clients do.

  A WhatsApp message is end-to-end encrypted, including any attachments,
media, etc.. So the sender and recipient can see the .eml file in the
clear, but no-one else can.

  BTW, of course my 'suggestion' was in jest.

> Reminds me of a different issue: whatsapp backups. By default, they are 
> not encrypted. I tried to enable encryption for a month or so, but most 
> days it failed. In the end, I had to disable it.

  I think that's a general issue of one's Google Account storage. Is it
encrypted or not? I encrypt my Google Drive backup, but don't know about
the other parts, i.e. WhatsApp backup, Gmail, others.

> There is a court case here where the accused deletes everything 
> periodically, so the court is now trying to get access to the backups. 
> Yes, both Google and Whatsapp have promised to help.

  Interesting. Keep us posted.