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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: DDD specifies recursive emulation to HHH and halting to HHH1
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2025 10:12:34 -0500
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On 3/28/2025 11:00 PM, dbush wrote:
> On 3/28/2025 11:45 PM, olcott wrote:
>>
>> It defines that it must compute the mapping from
>> the direct execution of a Turing Machine
> 
> Which does not require tracing an actual running TM, only mapping 
> properties of the TM described. 

The key fact that you continue to dishonestly ignore
is the concrete counter-example that I provided that
conclusively proves that the finite string of machine
code input is not always a valid proxy for the behavior
of the underlying virtual machine.

HHH(DDD) ~= HHH1(DDD) unless one dishonestly ignores
the semantics of the x86 language.

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