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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: And then there's... Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2025 23:06:18 +1300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 28 Message-ID: <vsb544$158kc$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: r.clark@auckland.ac.nz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2025 12:07:00 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b273b50cb7392af1273ca8f3b62ab3c8"; logging-data="1221260"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX199R2csfmH2XcJksJ6cCekoyhlxUaDPpHU=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:bVNjlioD9LJ8HGNPCEZ8ivmVjc8= X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.eternal-september.org:119 Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2537 Memorial Day of the 1848 Revolution (1848–49-es forradalom és szabadságharc) (15 March, Hungary) 15 March was the start of an insurrection against Austrian rule, which was finally suppressed the following year with the help of the Russians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1848 Did we do this one before? Doesn't matter, I just happened on this: "As a Hungarian, I certainly had no reason whatever to fall in love with Russia, whom I saw in the prime of my life as the oppressor of the national aspirations to libery and independence of my own country. The Russian campaign in Hungary in 1849 is engraved with indelible characters in the heart of every Magyar; and although the late Emperor Nicholas bitterly repented his brothersly service rendered to Austria, and notwithstanding that every Russian soldier has since torn from his breast the medal bearing the inscription "Vengria (Hungary) 1849," we Hungarians still couple the name of "Muscovite" with wilful tyranny and with all the horrors of despotism and barbarism." - Arminius Vámbéry, Travels and Adventures (1883) Then, on the next page, he uses the word "autopsy" in a sense recently discussed here (on a.u.e.?): "Now on this question [faults and virtues of the English]...I beg to have my own opinion, an opinion based upon autopsy and formed during many years of personal contact, while visiting more than thirty different towns of the United Kingdom."