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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: neos Universal Compiler and FORTRAN IV Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 11:28:49 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 38 Message-ID: <vsdjo1$3qcfv$1@dont-email.me> References: <UX6BP.512735$Kb9a.408485@fx16.ams4> <vr3ir8$39jtg$1@dont-email.me> <3KgBP.513160$Kb9a.94584@fx16.ams4> <vr6948$1jnlo$1@dont-email.me> <KWEBP.424367$NN2a.82900@fx15.ams4> <vr8pi1$3r8lv$1@dont-email.me> <NrYBP.191725$C8m7.108955@fx11.ams4> <vrbu8h$2km30$1@dont-email.me> <S7fCP.743699$nb1.627959@fx01.ams4> <vre64b$lcu3$1@dont-email.me> <2AACP.939386$gHk7.592478@fx17.ams4> <vreqb6$174ma$1@dont-email.me> <vs6334$2mosu$1@dont-email.me> <S8yFP.697907$B61.152494@fx02.ams4> <vs8frb$11o2g$1@dont-email.me> <vs8h01$12ie6$1@dont-email.me> <vsb11b$2m0ck$1@dont-email.me> <vsb3g8$digq$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 10:28:50 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9db5ebc22b0a66665dc12d47e37818b7"; logging-data="4010495"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX195UlxqyGtMWvMhBB6jBeF7" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:er1rn/Cd6nMIPrHtGa1aM79GHrA= Bytes: 2870 On 2025-03-30 09:39:20 +0000, Richard Heathfield said: > On 30/03/2025 09:57, Mikko wrote: >> On 2025-03-29 10:11:13 +0000, Richard Heathfield said: >> >>> On 29/03/2025 09:51, Mikko wrote: >>>> On 2025-03-28 14:14:10 +0000, Mr Flibble said: >>>> >>> <snip> >>>>> >>>>> If a native FORTRAN IV compiler can parse it then neos can parse it as >>>>> long as it is somehow expressable in the neos >>>>> attribute grammar. >>>> >>>> If you don't know how to express it in the neos attribute >>>> grammar then nobody knows and neos is not universal, at lieast >>>> in the practical sense. >>> >>> You don't understand, Mikko. You probably think that "neos can parse >>> it" means that neos can parse it. What it really means is that /in Mr >>> Flibble's head/ neos can parse it, and anything in Mr Flibble's head is >>> right by definition, and /therefore/ neos can parse FORTRAN IV even if >>> it can't. >> >> I can understand that but that is not interesting. But the question >> whether it is easier to use neos as universal compiler than a web >> browser is interesting. A web browser >> certainly can compile any programming language that can be >> compiled if it is given a script (HTML+javascript) that >> defines the source and target languages. > Yes, but does it halt? If it does not deliver the object file in reasonable time the script is bad. -- Mikko