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Subject: Re: [OT] Liberal MP proposes turning in his Conservative rival to China for a bounty
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 21:13:49 -0000 (UTC)
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On Mar 31, 2025 at 2:02:23 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 3/31/2025 2:57 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>  On 2025-03-31 1:51 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>  Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  A Liberal MP made a very controversial statement recently that has him
>>>>  in hot water, at least with the opposition, during the current federal
>>>>  election.
>>> 
>>>>  Paul Chiang, a sitting Liberal MP running for re-election, wrote a
>>>>  comment in Chinese media, that his Conservative opponent, Joe Tay, a
>>>>  city councillor, should be turned in to the Chinese consulate in Toronto
>>>>  for a bounty. Tay is originally from Hong Kong where he ran afoul of the
>>>>  local authorities for his anti-Beijing activism.
>>> 
>>>>  https://vancouversun.com/news/federal_election/transnational- 
>>>>  repression-jenny-kwan-weighs-in-on-liberal-mps-chinese-bounty-quip
>>> 
>>>>  Liberals are apparently insisting that Chiang's remark was just a joke
>>>>  but the opposition parties, Conservative and NDP alike, are calling for
>>>>  Chiang to step down and get replaced by another candidate. Mark Carney,
>>>>  the new Liberal leader, has the power to dump candidates but is
>>>>  resisting demands to dump Chiang.
>>> 
>>>>  Given the media's love of Liberals, I'm expecting this story to die
>>>>  quickly. I was surprised to learn that Chiang was a cop for 28 years.
>>> 
>>>  Ok. I'm a defender of the use of off-color jokes and bitter sarcasm in
>>>  public speech to make a point, and condemn those who infer racist or
>>>  hate speech, taking the remarks out of context.
>>> 
>>>  If he were contrasting Canada as a free society with China, he could
>>>  have said that he'd be subject to arrest in China, but in Canada, he's
>>>  perfectly free to run against an incumbant.
>>> 
>>>  But a bounty? I can't imagine a scenario in which that's funny. He needs
>>>  to apologize. What a jerk.
>>  
>>  Proposing to turn in Tay to the Chinese, when his native Hong Kong 
>>  actually HAS a bounty on him of $153K for his pro-democracy activism is 
>>  pretty damned ominous in my opinion.
>>  
>>  Apparently Chiang *has* apologized and that's enough for Carney but not 
>>  for the opposition parties. I'm not sure it's enough for me either. The 
>>  opposition parties may well be pushing this to see if it can hurt Chiang 
>>  and/or Carney. I'm concerned that Chiang may actually be serious.
>>  
>>  Personally, many of us here are concerned about foreign powers 
>>  manipulating our elections by helping candidates they favour and making 
>>  it more difficult for candidates that they see as hostile to them. I 
>>  don't want our MPs chosen by the CCP, Putin or the USA!
>>  
>>  We had a major inquiry into this matter just a year or two back, 
>>  although I never heard a final report. I don't know if the inquiry is 
>>  still mulling things over or if the guilty parties have somehow kept it 
>>  from reporting. Maybe I just missed the news when it came out.
> 
> You're concerned he might seriously try to bounty-hunt his opponent?
> 
> Seriously?

Were you concerned that Sarah Palin was seriously planning to have a sniper
shoot Democrat congressional candidates in the districts her website labeled
with crosshairs?