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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: [OT] Liberal MP proposes turning in his Conservative rival to China for a bounty Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 17:25:20 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 75 Message-ID: <vsf181$2ss4p$13@dont-email.me> References: <vsejkp$2ss4p$11@dont-email.me> <vsekn0$rukl$2@dont-email.me> <vseoih$2ss4p$12@dont-email.me> <vsevt0$18icp$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 23:25:22 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b70dda059f1acd727e177a03fd43bda7"; logging-data="3043481"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX180niCIgfJudL7V5RsWbC+9Pn6GQUiJcts=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:I3UFA8OhlDSQhh3bDGwgqe+w5Jo= X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 250331-6, 3/31/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <vsevt0$18icp$1@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-CA On 2025-03-31 5:02 PM, moviePig wrote: > On 3/31/2025 2:57 PM, Rhino wrote: >> On 2025-03-31 1:51 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote: >>> >>>> A Liberal MP made a very controversial statement recently that has him >>>> in hot water, at least with the opposition, during the current federal >>>> election. >>> >>>> Paul Chiang, a sitting Liberal MP running for re-election, wrote a >>>> comment in Chinese media, that his Conservative opponent, Joe Tay, a >>>> city councillor, should be turned in to the Chinese consulate in >>>> Toronto >>>> for a bounty. Tay is originally from Hong Kong where he ran afoul of >>>> the >>>> local authorities for his anti-Beijing activism. >>> >>>> https://vancouversun.com/news/federal_election/transnational- >>>> repression-jenny-kwan-weighs-in-on-liberal-mps-chinese-bounty-quip >>> >>>> Liberals are apparently insisting that Chiang's remark was just a joke >>>> but the opposition parties, Conservative and NDP alike, are calling for >>>> Chiang to step down and get replaced by another candidate. Mark Carney, >>>> the new Liberal leader, has the power to dump candidates but is >>>> resisting demands to dump Chiang. >>> >>>> Given the media's love of Liberals, I'm expecting this story to die >>>> quickly. I was surprised to learn that Chiang was a cop for 28 years. >>> >>> Ok. I'm a defender of the use of off-color jokes and bitter sarcasm in >>> public speech to make a point, and condemn those who infer racist or >>> hate speech, taking the remarks out of context. >>> >>> If he were contrasting Canada as a free society with China, he could >>> have said that he'd be subject to arrest in China, but in Canada, he's >>> perfectly free to run against an incumbant. >>> >>> But a bounty? I can't imagine a scenario in which that's funny. He needs >>> to apologize. What a jerk. >> >> Proposing to turn in Tay to the Chinese, when his native Hong Kong >> actually HAS a bounty on him of $153K for his pro-democracy activism >> is pretty damned ominous in my opinion. >> >> Apparently Chiang *has* apologized and that's enough for Carney but >> not for the opposition parties. I'm not sure it's enough for me >> either. The opposition parties may well be pushing this to see if it >> can hurt Chiang and/or Carney. I'm concerned that Chiang may actually >> be serious. >> >> Personally, many of us here are concerned about foreign powers >> manipulating our elections by helping candidates they favour and >> making it more difficult for candidates that they see as hostile to >> them. I don't want our MPs chosen by the CCP, Putin or the USA! >> >> We had a major inquiry into this matter just a year or two back, >> although I never heard a final report. I don't know if the inquiry is >> still mulling things over or if the guilty parties have somehow kept >> it from reporting. Maybe I just missed the news when it came out. > > You're concerned he might seriously try to bounty-hunt his opponent? > > Seriously? > > Probably not personally but he was proposing that others in the "community" do so and there are a LOT of Chinese-Canadians in that area. Some of them certainly have more loyalty to the CCP than Canada if their participation if pro-China demonstrations are any guide. A reward of at least $183,000 gives anyone a lot of incentive to bring Mr. Tay to the Chinese consulate or one of their secret police stations. -- Rhino