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From: Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Liberal MP proposes turning in his Conservative rival to
 China for a bounty
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 17:25:20 -0400
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On 2025-03-31 5:02 PM, moviePig wrote:
> On 3/31/2025 2:57 PM, Rhino wrote:
>> On 2025-03-31 1:51 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A Liberal MP made a very controversial statement recently that has him
>>>> in hot water, at least with the opposition, during the current federal
>>>> election.
>>>
>>>> Paul Chiang, a sitting Liberal MP running for re-election, wrote a
>>>> comment in Chinese media, that his Conservative opponent, Joe Tay, a
>>>> city councillor, should be turned in to the Chinese consulate in 
>>>> Toronto
>>>> for a bounty. Tay is originally from Hong Kong where he ran afoul of 
>>>> the
>>>> local authorities for his anti-Beijing activism.
>>>
>>>> https://vancouversun.com/news/federal_election/transnational- 
>>>> repression-jenny-kwan-weighs-in-on-liberal-mps-chinese-bounty-quip
>>>
>>>> Liberals are apparently insisting that Chiang's remark was just a joke
>>>> but the opposition parties, Conservative and NDP alike, are calling for
>>>> Chiang to step down and get replaced by another candidate. Mark Carney,
>>>> the new Liberal leader, has the power to dump candidates but is
>>>> resisting demands to dump Chiang.
>>>
>>>> Given the media's love of Liberals, I'm expecting this story to die
>>>> quickly. I was surprised to learn that Chiang was a cop for 28 years.
>>>
>>> Ok. I'm a defender of the use of off-color jokes and bitter sarcasm in
>>> public speech to make a point, and condemn those who infer racist or
>>> hate speech, taking the remarks out of context.
>>>
>>> If he were contrasting Canada as a free society with China, he could
>>> have said that he'd be subject to arrest in China, but in Canada, he's
>>> perfectly free to run against an incumbant.
>>>
>>> But a bounty? I can't imagine a scenario in which that's funny. He needs
>>> to apologize. What a jerk.
>>
>> Proposing to turn in Tay to the Chinese, when his native Hong Kong 
>> actually HAS a bounty on him of $153K for his pro-democracy activism 
>> is pretty damned ominous in my opinion.
>>
>> Apparently Chiang *has* apologized and that's enough for Carney but 
>> not for the opposition parties. I'm not sure it's enough for me 
>> either. The opposition parties may well be pushing this to see if it 
>> can hurt Chiang and/or Carney. I'm concerned that Chiang may actually 
>> be serious.
>>
>> Personally, many of us here are concerned about foreign powers 
>> manipulating our elections by helping candidates they favour and 
>> making it more difficult for candidates that they see as hostile to 
>> them. I don't want our MPs chosen by the CCP, Putin or the USA!
>>
>> We had a major inquiry into this matter just a year or two back, 
>> although I never heard a final report. I don't know if the inquiry is 
>> still mulling things over or if the guilty parties have somehow kept 
>> it from reporting. Maybe I just missed the news when it came out.
> 
> You're concerned he might seriously try to bounty-hunt his opponent?
> 
> Seriously?
> 
> 
Probably not personally but he was proposing that others in the 
"community" do so and there are a LOT of Chinese-Canadians in that area. 
Some of them certainly have more loyalty to the CCP than Canada if their 
participation if pro-China demonstrations are any guide.

A reward of at least $183,000 gives anyone a lot of incentive to bring 
Mr. Tay to the Chinese consulate or one of their secret police stations.

-- 
Rhino