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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: [OT] Liberal MP proposes turning in his Conservative rival to China for a bounty Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2025 04:53:17 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 86 Message-ID: <vsfrfs$28asr$2@dont-email.me> References: <vsejkp$2ss4p$11@dont-email.me> <vsevt0$18icp$1@dont-email.me> <vsf181$2ss4p$13@dont-email.me> <vsf3l1$1bpgi$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2025 06:53:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2c0b84536e08715b93355d689d79f55d"; logging-data="2370459"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1819YboujdpY4j4w6Y8eq45" User-Agent: Usenapp/0.92.2/l for MacOS Cancel-Lock: sha1:PTa5jcZvimSCCePLeXZ93ZeRj4c= Bytes: 5220 On Mar 31, 2025 at 3:06:25 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote: > On 3/31/2025 5:25 PM, Rhino wrote: >> On 2025-03-31 5:02 PM, moviePig wrote: >>> On 3/31/2025 2:57 PM, Rhino wrote: >>>> On 2025-03-31 1:51 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>>> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A Liberal MP made a very controversial statement recently that has him >>>>>> in hot water, at least with the opposition, during the current federal >>>>>> election. >>>>> >>>>>> Paul Chiang, a sitting Liberal MP running for re-election, wrote a >>>>>> comment in Chinese media, that his Conservative opponent, Joe Tay, a >>>>>> city councillor, should be turned in to the Chinese consulate in >>>>>> Toronto >>>>>> for a bounty. Tay is originally from Hong Kong where he ran afoul >>>>>> of the >>>>>> local authorities for his anti-Beijing activism. >>>>> >>>>>> https://vancouversun.com/news/federal_election/transnational- >>>>>> repression-jenny-kwan-weighs-in-on-liberal-mps-chinese-bounty-quip >>>>> >>>>>> Liberals are apparently insisting that Chiang's remark was just a joke >>>>>> but the opposition parties, Conservative and NDP alike, are calling >>>>>> for >>>>>> Chiang to step down and get replaced by another candidate. Mark >>>>>> Carney, >>>>>> the new Liberal leader, has the power to dump candidates but is >>>>>> resisting demands to dump Chiang. >>>>> >>>>>> Given the media's love of Liberals, I'm expecting this story to die >>>>>> quickly. I was surprised to learn that Chiang was a cop for 28 years. >>>>> >>>>> Ok. I'm a defender of the use of off-color jokes and bitter sarcasm in >>>>> public speech to make a point, and condemn those who infer racist or >>>>> hate speech, taking the remarks out of context. >>>>> >>>>> If he were contrasting Canada as a free society with China, he could >>>>> have said that he'd be subject to arrest in China, but in Canada, he's >>>>> perfectly free to run against an incumbant. >>>>> >>>>> But a bounty? I can't imagine a scenario in which that's funny. He >>>>> needs >>>>> to apologize. What a jerk. >>>> >>>> Proposing to turn in Tay to the Chinese, when his native Hong Kong >>>> actually HAS a bounty on him of $153K for his pro-democracy activism >>>> is pretty damned ominous in my opinion. >>>> >>>> Apparently Chiang *has* apologized and that's enough for Carney but >>>> not for the opposition parties. I'm not sure it's enough for me >>>> either. The opposition parties may well be pushing this to see if it >>>> can hurt Chiang and/or Carney. I'm concerned that Chiang may actually >>>> be serious. >>>> >>>> Personally, many of us here are concerned about foreign powers >>>> manipulating our elections by helping candidates they favour and >>>> making it more difficult for candidates that they see as hostile to >>>> them. I don't want our MPs chosen by the CCP, Putin or the USA! >>>> >>>> We had a major inquiry into this matter just a year or two back, >>>> although I never heard a final report. I don't know if the inquiry is >>>> still mulling things over or if the guilty parties have somehow kept >>>> it from reporting. Maybe I just missed the news when it came out. >>> >>> You're concerned he might seriously try to bounty-hunt his opponent? >>> >>> Seriously? >>> >>> >> Probably not personally but he was proposing that others in the >> "community" do so and there are a LOT of Chinese-Canadians in that area. >> Some of them certainly have more loyalty to the CCP than Canada if their >> participation if pro-China demonstrations are any guide. >> >> A reward of at least $183,000 gives anyone a lot of incentive to bring >> Mr. Tay to the Chinese consulate or one of their secret police stations. > > Then I'll concede that it seems at least in clumsy bad taste ...though > I'm surprised to hear that CCP loyalists abound in North America. Not only abound, but have some famous Americans among their ranks, not the least of which have the surname Biden.