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On 2025-04-01 00:51:34 +0000, Bob Casanova said:

> On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:34:39 -0500, the following appeared
> in talk.origins, posted by DB Cates <cates_db@hotmail.com>:
> 
>> On 2025-03-31 11:38 a.m., Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
>>> On 2025-03-31 16:19:18 +0000, Bob Casanova said:
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, 31 Mar 2025 08:04:13 -0700, the following appeared
>>>> in talk.origins, posted by erik simpson
>>>> <eastside.erik@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/30/25 7:00 PM, Kestrel Clayton wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The last day of March is the Transgender Day of Visibility, a day to
>>>>>> improve awareness of transgender people, to draw attention to the
>>>>>> challenges and oppression we face, and help people understand us
>>>>>> better.
>>>>>> The TDoV is more important than ever in 2025, as the Trump
>>>>>> Administration has put us squarely in its target sights.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One of the ways I can fight for my existence, and that of several of my
>>>>>> friends and loved ones, is by being visible as myself, answering
>>>>>> questions, and demystifying trans people.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am a transgender woman. I am visible. Ask me anything.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Intending no disrespect, I'm sympathetic to anyone with gender
>>>>> dysphoria.  It's probably a conclusion that you and others have reached
>>>>> only after some serious introspection.  That's your business, not mine,
>>>>> and doesn't disturb me in the slightest.  I do object to biological
>>>>> males competing in women's sports, and I think it's a very bad idea for
>>>>> minors to do anything irrevocable before their brains are at least
>>>>> soft-boiled.
>>>>> 
>>>> Agreed. All.
>>> 
>>> Agreed. All.
>>> 
>>> 
>> Sort of agreed, but re: sports, how exactly do you define 'biological
>> male' and how would you plan to enforce it? And yes, it is a bad idea
>> for minors to do anything irrevocable. The cases I know of are in late
>> adolescence with a long history of really knowing what they want and
>> decisions made by doctor/parent in cases of infants with ambiguous or
>> damaged genitalia. I'm okay with the first but dead against the second.
>> 
> The issue is regarding the difference between biological
> males (generally XY) and biological females (generally XX)
> in upper-body strength after puberty; if it weren't a
> problem such athletes as "Lia" Thomas wouldn't go from
> underperforming in men's sports to record breakers in female
> sports, and the records would be comparable between males
> and females. But they aren't. Titlele IX was passed for a
> reason. If you have no interest in fair competition, fine,
> but at least recognize that there *is* a difference.

"Lia" Thomas isn't the worst example. I find it appalling that the 
International Olympic Committee found it perfectly OK to have a man 
beating up a woman as a legitimate spectator sport.


-- 
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 38 years; mainly 
in England until 1987.