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Subject: Stephen A. Smith Tells Ben Shapiro "Absolutely Nothing" Could Change His Mind About Derek Chauvin
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2025 04:30:42 -0400
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ESPN host Stephen A. Smith on Tuesday told Daily Wire editor emeritus Ben 
Shapiro that there was “absolutely nothing” that could get him to change his 
mind about Derek Chauvin.

Shapiro joined “The Stephen A. Smith Show” to make his case for pardoning 
Chauvin, the police officer convicted for killing George Floyd. Earlier this 
month, Smith suggested Shapiro’s motives were disingenuous, and that he would 
not have called for Chauvin to be pardoned if he were black, or if Floyd was 
Jewish.

But even after Shapiro outlined the evidence for why Chauvin should not have 
been charged with murder, Smith remained unmoved.

“What would it take for you to change your mind on the case?” Shapiro asked 
after noting that Floyd had requested to leave the police car and that 
Chauvin was following protocol in detaining him.

“There’s absolutely nothing that could convince me that Derek Chauvin 
deserved a different outcome,” Smith said.

	Facts don't care about your feelings.@benshapiro: What would it 
	take for you to change your mind on the case?@stephenasmith: 
	There's absolutely nothing that could convince me that Derek 
	Chauvin deserved a different outcome. pic.twitter.com/kBwYo7uPco

	— Daily Wire (@realDailyWire) March 25, 2025

Smith also attempted to argue that Shapiro could not weigh in on the Floyd 
case because he did not have the “lived experience” of “black folks.”

“What about the argument that when we talk about black folks, you can talk 
about data all you want to … but the real experiences that we endure from 
time to time, is not something that you can necessarily calculate,” Smith 
said. “How seriously do you take those assertions coming from a community 
whether it’s your own, mine, or anybody else’s?”

..@BenShapiro calmly dismantles the “lived experience” argument:@StephenASmith 
responds: “Yeah, you make a valid point.” pic.twitter.com/k4WinhZELt

— Daily Wire (@realDailyWire) March 25, 2025

Shapiro admitted it’s true that we can “never fully get into one another’s 
shoes,” but said that “when it comes to making public policy then the only 
sort of gauge that you can have really is the data.”

“When it comes to trying to craft law, for example, making law based on the 
personal feelings of people’s quote unquote lived experiences, is a bad way 
to make law that is going to have to be generally applicable.”

Smith agreed and said “Yeah, you make a valid point about policy when you 
talk about policy. You can’t just go by personal experience. It’s got to be 
the numbers. It’s got to be the data.”

Shapiro earlier this month launched “The Case For Derek Chauvin,” a five-part 
series diving into the Floyd incident and making the case for Chauvin’s 
innocence.

“The evidence demonstrates that Derek Chauvin did not, in fact, commit the 
murder of George Floyd,” Shapiro said. “George Floyd was high on fentanyl; he 
had a significant pre-existing heart condition. George Floyd was saying he 
could not breathe before he was even out of the car. He was in the car saying 
he could not breathe.”

The first three episodes of that series are now streaming on DailyWire+.

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