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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.tomockey.net!news.samoylyk.net!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 [Was: The non-existence of "dark numbers"] Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 16:20:42 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 16 Message-ID: <vsjh3s$1r7d0$5@dont-email.me> References: <vqrbtd$1chb7$2@solani.org> <efbe60c5-6691-4fd6-8638-589fd95ec8a4@att.net> <vrkabi$233at$1@dont-email.me> <vrkca8$18dh$1@news.muc.de> <vrlt7r$3hfcp$3@dont-email.me> <9e0c7e728f7de44e13450d7401fe65d36c5638f3@i2pn2.org> <vrpsaa$3708j$1@dont-email.me> <vrpud0$po9$2@news.muc.de> <vrsb4p$1gv1d$3@dont-email.me> <vrsgn5$1lg8$4@news.muc.de> <vrujtd$3l4hv$1@dont-email.me> <vrusi3$10kn$2@news.muc.de> <vrv3c4$3vgl8$1@dont-email.me> <vrves5$1507$1@news.muc.de> <vs1l08$2cnha$1@dont-email.me> <vs3c63$127j$1@news.muc.de> <vs4b5m$eulg$4@solani.org> <vs4sa4$1giht$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 02 Apr 2025 16:20:44 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3b3ad02323851999ad8af01c7ee6b1d2"; logging-data="1940896"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/mRoe3Uap51y51PZO/OO6SAO1OgfxenMQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:1PelYm3oluZGtPaatez4Taajyew= In-Reply-To: <vs4sa4$1giht$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2189 On 28.03.2025 01:59, Moebius wrote: > Am 27.03.2025 um 21:07 schrieb WM: > >> For finite sets cardinality is a meaningful notion expressing the >> number of elements. > For infinite sets it is a "generalisation" of the notion "number of > elements". > > Hint: "In mathematics, the cardinality of a set is the number of its > elements. This is wrong because an element can be added without changing the cardinality. Regards, WM