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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 14:38:49 -0400
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On 4/2/2025 12:58 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 12:45:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski
> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/2/2025 10:36 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote:
>>> Am 02.04.2025 um 16:32 schrieb cyclintom:
>>>> On Thu Mar 27 19:28:12 2025 Frank Krygowski  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So explain. You now seem to say they would work for other causes
>>>>> of TBI. And you say bicycling is not a very important or serious
>>>>> risk of TBI. But you still tell people just riding on roads that
>>>>> they should wear helmets. Apparently you don't do the same for
>>>>> people walking near roads, despite evidence of greater risk. Nor
>>>>> for people riding in cars, who dominate the TBI statistics for
>>>>> transportation.
>>>>
>>>> Frank, why are you so fixed in convincing people that they shouldn't
>>>> wear helmets? Exactly what business of yours what they do?
>>>
>>> Frank any myself mostly wish to ensure that people aren't pressurized to
>>> wear helmets.
>>>
>>> Making bicycling look like a dangerous activity is likely to reduce the
>>> attraction of cycling as a mode of transport.
>>
>> Right, that's my main motivation, although there are other details. I've
>> long been disturbed by the false propaganda portraying ordinary
>> bicycling as some high risk activity. I'm also astonished that so very
>> many avid cyclists are so committed to furthering that false propaganda.
>> As I've said, I don't see that schizoid behavior from avid runners,
>> drivers, swimmers, etc. It's just weird.
>>
>> Some details: Even if cycling were more dangerous than, say, walking in
>> a city, I don't think do-gooders should be nagging cyclists to attempt
>> to protect themselves with foam hats. People would rightfully be
>> offended if they got nagged every time they consumed a hot dog or
>> something sweet and carbonated. We don't see government funds telling
>> people not to try rock climbing, skateboard tricks, flying in light
>> aircraft or even skydiving, all of which are probably far more risky
>> than simply bicycling bareheaded.
>>
>> So why do we accept government or Usenet posters telling us to never
>> ride without a helmet,
> 
> Very few governments do that, and Usenet posters are easy to ignore.

:-) Not for you! I keep wondering what percentage of my posts you are 
compelled to snark at. It's got to be high!

You've got a problem. Seek help.


-- 
- Frank Krygowski