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From: AJL <noemail@none.com>
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
Subject: Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of
 removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 00:35:12 -0000 (UTC)
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On 4/2/25 4:35 PM, Peter wrote:
>AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>
>>>The point was that Apple & Google don't put the sd card slot in phones for
>>>a reason, which is NOT that they want to give you the best phone possible.
>> 
>> Guess you missed my point (and fact). Unlike Apple iOS devices the vast vast
>>  majority of Android phones (and tablets etc) that run Google accounts and
>>  apps are NOT made by Google and thus Google has no say over whether the
>>  device has a slot or not. That is the *individual manufacturers* choice...
>
>Thanks for the clarification which I agree with you I had missed the point.
>
>There are 1,936 Android models (2020 to present), with a standard sd slot.
>https://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?nYearMin=2020&sAvailabilities=1,2&idCardslot=1
>
>There are 986 Android models (2020 to present), without a standard sd slot.
>https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?nYearMin=2020&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=1
>
>Out of 2,922 recent Androids in use today, 1/3rd have a standard slot.
>
>The biggest Android seller is Samsung, which outsold the iPhone every
>quarter for the past few years (except for a single quarter last year).
>
>So let's look at Samsung phones for the percentage that have the sdslot.
>
>There are 134 Samsung models with that industry standard sd slot.
>https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?nYearMin=2020&sMakers=9&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=1
>
>Compared to 44 Samsung models without the industry standard sd slot.
>https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?nYearMin=2020&sMakers=9&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=3
>
>Out of 178 recent Samsung models still in use today, 75% have the sd slot.
>
>We know Apple's strategy is to fleece the customer so it's zero percent.
>But what about Google whose strategy is also to fleece the customer?
>
>Just as with Apple, there are 0 Google phones with the standard sd slot.
>https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?nYearMin=2020&sMakers=107&sAvailabilities=1,2&idOS=2&idCardslot=1



>So my statements remain backed up that Google & Apple don't provide what
>over three quarters of Samsung phones provide, and Samsung is clearly the
>best seller on the market bar none (Apple iPhones don't even come close).

I guess it's how one reads your original statement. When one compares Apple
 and Google phones I think most folks think Android phones with Google
 installed. But you are correct if you mean only Google Pixel phones. I
 guess what threw me off is that would leave out the majority of the
 non-Apple market, many with no slots. Shouldn't they have required some of
 your wrath too?

>I wonder if people buy Samsungs because they don't have the strategy of
>fleecing them by removing hardware so that the consumer has to buy it back?

I bought my Samsung phone over 5 years ago and I can't remember what my
 reasons were for buying it over other brands. But I can tell you it is
 still a virgin. I've never had any need to stick anything in it's slot...