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Subject: Re: DDD specifies recursive emulation to HHH and halting to HHH1 ---
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On 4/2/2025 10:15 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 4/2/2025 8:52 AM, joes wrote:
>> Am Tue, 01 Apr 2025 21:37:40 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>> On 4/1/2025 8:13 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 4/1/25 7:35 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 4/1/2025 5:36 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/31/25 10:19 PM, olcott wrote:
>>
>>>>>> But DDD doesn't prevent its own terminatation, as it calls an HHH
>>>>>> that WILL abort its emulation and return and answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You know that DDD stopping running and DDD reaching its final halt
>>>>> state are not the same thing you damned liar.
>>>>>
>>>> Right, the DDD who's simulation is stopped hasn't shown non-halting
>>>> behavior, just not-yet-halted.
>>>>
>>> You already admitted that you are lying about this.
>>> DDD emulated by HHH for an infinite number of steps never reaches its
>>> final halt state.
>> *finite
>>
>>> HHH sees this in one recursive emulation of DDD.
>>>
>>> *Simulating termination analyzer Principle*
>>> It is always correct for any simulating termination analyzer to stop
>>> simulating and reject any input that would otherwise prevent its own
>>> termination. The only rebuttal to this is rejecting the notion that
>>> deciders must always halt.
>> It must also return the right value.
>>
> 
> By process of elimination and by the above criteria
> we can determine that not stopping the emulation

Changes the input.

Changing the input is not allowed.