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From: AJL <noemail@none.com>
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Subject: Re: A good thing or a bad thing (Was: Tutorial: Working example of
 removing & re-installing Android system apps from a PC)
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 07:09:32 -0000 (UTC)
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On 4/2/25 10:57 PM, Peter wrote:
>AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>
>>>So my statements remain backed up that Google & Apple don't provide what
>>>over three quarters of Samsung phones provide, and Samsung is clearly the
>>>best seller on the market bar none (Apple iPhones don't even come close).
>> 
>> I guess it's how one reads your original statement. When one compares Apple
>>  and Google phones I think most folks think Android phones with Google
>>  installed. But you are correct if you mean only Google Pixel phones. I
>>  guess what threw me off is that would leave out the majority of the
>>  non-Apple market, many with no slots. Shouldn't they have required some of
>>  your wrath too?
>
>I'm glad you clarified and I apologize for not fully understanding you.


>I think we're both communicating well now, given how conversations go.
>When you said 'Google', I didn't realize you had maybe meant 'Android'.

I'm reading you and posting back in an Android group...

>When I think of a "Google phone", I think of the Pixel model only.
>But you were apparently thinking of Google's Android OS - which is fine.

When an Android phone won't operate unless it's signed into Google it's not
 hard to think of it as a Google phone. I think many folks think that way
 and perhaps that's why I've never heard a Pixel owner refer to his phone a
 Google phone. Have you?

>The beauty of Android is if you *want* the sdcard slot, you can get it.
>Most Android's sold are Samsung & 75% of the Samsung models have the slot.
>
>Maybe that's why most Android's sold are Samsungs in the first place. :)
> 
>>>I wonder if people buy Samsungs because they don't have the strategy of
>>>fleecing them by removing hardware so that the consumer has to buy it back?
>> 
>> I bought my Samsung phone over 5 years ago and I can't remember what my
>>  reasons were for buying it over other brands. But I can tell you it is
>>  still a virgin. I've never had any need to stick anything in it's slot...


>If you don't need the memory, the slot doesn't help or hurt you.
>But if you need the memory, NOT having the slot hurts you a lot.

Yup. And the market has lots of phone choices for you slot needing folks.

>Fundamentally, everything else being equal, a phone without the slot is
>clearly a substandard phone to one that has the slot. That's pure logic.

Not so much. It depends on the need of the customer. I have an iPhone user
 in my house that's been using for decades and no slot complaints. Fact is
 I'm not sure she would even know what we're talking about.

>I'm use to people making the argument that a worse phone is better.
>But they don't know anything about basic logic since that makes no sense.

>A phone with the slot, everything else being equal, can not only do
>EVERYTHING that the phone without the slot can do, but it can do more.

Yup. It can also collect dust and crud. Same with the USB port I never use
 (wireless charging). Hopefully my next phone will be hole free.

>And what it can do no phone on the planet without a slot can hope to do.
>That's worth a lot when you need it; and it's worth nothing if you don't.

As I said, 5+ years with no need of the holes on my phone. I suppose some
 will bitch when the power plug leaves too. Being modern I use my phone
 wirelessly, both charging and data. But as always the market will decide...