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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 13:59:15 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <vsmlq3$1bbrc$1@dont-email.me> References: <vrfvbd$256og$2@dont-email.me> <04aa9edbe77f4e701297d873264511f820d85526@i2pn2.org> <vsbu9j$1vihj$1@dont-email.me> <215f3f8823df394f0cbd307af57a528cb3afc52f@i2pn2.org> <vsc6lj$27lbo$1@dont-email.me> <ba194532a2343e7068ed57b756a99f48241a94fb@i2pn2.org> <vsce69$2fv3s$1@dont-email.me> <7e0f966861ff1efd916d8d9c32cc9309fd92fe82@i2pn2.org> <vsckdc$2l3cb$1@dont-email.me> <cd467496ff18486f746047b3b1affc4927981c0c@i2pn2.org> <vsct12$2ub5m$1@dont-email.me> <3ab00594a6cdaa3ca8aa32da86b865f3a56d5159@i2pn2.org> <vsd1p9$379dn$3@dont-email.me> <45167877871179050e15837d637c4c8a22e661fd@i2pn2.org> <vsenb0$th5g$7@dont-email.me> <4c1393a97bc073e455df99e0a2d3a47bfc71d940@i2pn2.org> <vsfe66$1m8qr$4@dont-email.me> <7286761fb720294d7a87d883fc82c8f8cf95a460@i2pn2.org> <vsfl7f$1s8b0$3@dont-email.me> <6edcdf0fa4f6ec503240b27a5801f93c470ed7d6@i2pn2.org> <vsh931$3mdkb$1@dont-email.me> <vsivgk$1fjla$1@dont-email.me> <vsjmtj$26s7s$2@dont-email.me> <vslbsr$1uta$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2025 20:59:16 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6f7c1ef7ed393c1fe15fc2cd7d6d1f22"; logging-data="1421164"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18gbYAPJToxUzjsnPJ4vWO7" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:IJyBvWOOhBfBVQiwxVQZId5Gr4M= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250402-4, 4/2/2025), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <vslbsr$1uta$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3828 On 4/3/2025 2:03 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2025-04-02 15:59:47 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 4/2/2025 4:20 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2025-04-01 17:51:29 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> >>>> All we have to do is make a C program that does this >>>> with pairs of finite strings then it becomes self-evidently >>>> correct needing no proof. >>> >>> There already are programs that check proofs. But you can make your own >>> if you think the logic used by the existing ones is not correct. >>> >>> If the your logic system is sufficiently weak there may also be a way to >>> make a C program that can construct the proof or determine that there is >>> none. >> >> When we define a system that cannot possibly be inconsistent >> then a proof of consistency not needed. > > But a proof of paraconsistency is required. > When it is stipulated that {cats} <are> {Animals} When it is stipulated that {Animals} <are> {Living Things} Then the complete proof of those is their stipulation. AND {Cats} <are> {Living Things} is semantically entailed. >> A system entirely comprised of Basic Facts and Semantic logical >> entailment cannot possibly be inconsistent. > > It can if the set of basic facts is inconsistent or if the logical > entailment sematics is not sufficiently weak. Inconsistencies are > avoided if your system has no way to express logical negations > (which incudes negative quantification). > Stipulated basic facts + semantic logical entailment guarantees True(X). When the basic facts do not contradict each other then undecidability is impossible. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer