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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: "A diagram of C23 basic types" Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 16:01:18 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: <vsn3vu$1rigp$1@dont-email.me> References: <87y0wjaysg.fsf@gmail.com> <vsj1m8$1f8h2$1@dont-email.me> <vsj2l9$1j0as$1@dont-email.me> <vsjgk0$207gb$1@paganini.bofh.team> <vsjkc8$252sk$1@dont-email.me> <vsk5h5$2kpbg$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2025 01:01:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e2c747021cf4b98cdbf0e00a9e01b7cd"; logging-data="1952281"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+hw9deAtpkiCChBIuKYRuZYEeiuntAupo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:D5pqQ5Vds3pBxczyKHwyP2yX43M= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vsk5h5$2kpbg$3@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2621 On 4/2/2025 1:09 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > On 4/2/2025 8:16 AM, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org wrote: >> On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 14:12:18 -0000 (UTC) >> antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) wibbled: >>> Muttley@dastardlyhq.org wrote: >>>> On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 10:57:29 +0100 >>>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> wibbled: >>>>> On 02/04/2025 06:59, Alexis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thought people here might be interested in this image on Jens >>>>>> Gustedt's >>>>>> blog, which translates section 6.2.5, "Types", of the C23 standard >>>>>> into a graph of inclusions: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://gustedt.wordpress.com/2025/03/29/a-diagram-of-c23- >>>>>> basic-types/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> So much for C being a 'simple' language. >>>> >>>> C should be left alone. It does what it needs to do for a systems >>>> language. >>>> Almost no use uses it for applications any more and sophisticated >>>> processing >>>> using complex types for example are far better done in C++. >>> >>> C99 has VMT (variable modified types). Thanks to VMT and complex types >>> C99 can naturaly do numeric computing that previously was done using >>> Fortran 77. Offical C++ has no VMT. C++ mechanizms look nicer, >> >> Officially no, but I've never come across a C++ compiler that didn't >> support >> them given they're all C compilers too. > > All C++ compilers are also C compilers? To answer my own sarcastic question: No way. :^)