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Path: ...!news.tomockey.net!news.samoylyk.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 08:41:35 +0100 Organization: Fix this later Lines: 38 Message-ID: <vso2ff$2tj1d$2@dont-email.me> References: <vsn1fu$1p67k$1@dont-email.me> <7EKdnTIUz9UkpXL6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <vsng73$27sdj$1@dont-email.me> <gGKdnZiYPJVC03L6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@brightview.co.uk> <vsnk2v$2fc5a$1@dont-email.me> <vsnmtg$2i4qp$3@dont-email.me> <vsno7m$2g4cd$3@dont-email.me> <vsnp0o$2ka6o$2@dont-email.me> <vsnpv4$2g4cd$6@dont-email.me> <vsntes$2osdn$1@dont-email.me> <vsntv3$2paf9$1@dont-email.me> <vso1a0$2sf7o$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2025 09:41:36 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="36cff22e2bbce90c63e390e25cbe9050"; logging-data="3066925"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18dVuVs6Dx+U/QmgdF4czuhSAcPzbLKu8zx/WOHH/TnIQ==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:bhnGq/NmpXNtHt2xV8WF5QgkS6E= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <vso1a0$2sf7o$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2835 On 04/04/2025 08:21, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 07:24:35 +0100, Richard Heathfield wrote: > >> On 04/04/2025 07:15, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 06:16:20 +0100, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>> >>>> The Cantor diagonal argument shows that *any* list, finite or >>>> infinite, >>>> is incomplete. >>> >>> But it takes an infinite number of steps to show that for an infinite >>> list. And at every point, the probability that the N digits computed so >>> far match some number later in the list is 1. >> >> Depends on the list. > > No it doesn’t. At every point N, we have the first N digits of our > hypothetical number-that-is-not-in-the-list. But we have an infinitude of > remaining numbers in the list we haven’t looked at, among which all > possible combinations of those N digits will occur. Show me your first N digits, and I'll show you a counterexample. > Therefore there is > guaranteed to be some number we haven’t looked at yet with all those first > N digits the same. And yet you still won't post those first N digits. It's almost like you already know that as soon as you do I'll be able to post a counterexample, so you have to keep stalling. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within