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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: "A diagram of C23 basic types" Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 09:43:26 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <vso9ju$352et$1@dont-email.me> References: <87y0wjaysg.fsf@gmail.com> <vsj1m8$1f8h2$1@dont-email.me> <vsj2l9$1j0as$1@dont-email.me> <vsjgk0$207gb$1@paganini.bofh.team> <vsjkc8$252sk$1@dont-email.me> <vsk5h5$2kpbg$3@dont-email.me> <vsn3vu$1rigp$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2025 11:43:27 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c4d4e4980b3de0ab40f443eec29dc220"; logging-data="3312093"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18oI4NUVzhJjkxgoRykpYcU" Cancel-Lock: sha1:p8Wwofv5LVpC3C2gUSDmhqItFNU= Bytes: 2611 On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 16:01:18 -0700 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wibbled: >On 4/2/2025 1:09 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> On 4/2/2025 8:16 AM, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org wrote: >>> On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 14:12:18 -0000 (UTC) >>> antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) wibbled: >>>> Muttley@dastardlyhq.org wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 10:57:29 +0100 >>>>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> wibbled: >>>>>> On 02/04/2025 06:59, Alexis wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thought people here might be interested in this image on Jens >>>>>>> Gustedt's >>>>>>> blog, which translates section 6.2.5, "Types", of the C23 standard >>>>>>> into a graph of inclusions: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://gustedt.wordpress.com/2025/03/29/a-diagram-of-c23- >>>>>>> basic-types/ >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> So much for C being a 'simple' language. >>>>> >>>>> C should be left alone. It does what it needs to do for a systems >>>>> language. >>>>> Almost no use uses it for applications any more and sophisticated >>>>> processing >>>>> using complex types for example are far better done in C++. >>>> >>>> C99 has VMT (variable modified types). Thanks to VMT and complex types >>>> C99 can naturaly do numeric computing that previously was done using >>>> Fortran 77. Offical C++ has no VMT. C++ mechanizms look nicer, >>> >>> Officially no, but I've never come across a C++ compiler that didn't >>> support >>> them given they're all C compilers too. >> >> All C++ compilers are also C compilers? > >To answer my own sarcastic question: No way. :^) So name one that isn't. Fairly simple way to prove your point.