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From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: "A diagram of C23 basic types"
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 03:25:23 -0700
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On 4/4/2025 2:43 AM, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 16:01:18 -0700
> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wibbled:
>> On 4/2/2025 1:09 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>>> On 4/2/2025 8:16 AM, Muttley@DastardlyHQ.org wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 14:12:18 -0000 (UTC)
>>>> antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) wibbled:
>>>>> Muttley@dastardlyhq.org wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Apr 2025 10:57:29 +0100
>>>>>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> wibbled:
>>>>>>> On 02/04/2025 06:59, Alexis wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thought people here might be interested in this image on Jens
>>>>>>>> Gustedt's
>>>>>>>> blog, which translates section 6.2.5, "Types", of the C23 standard
>>>>>>>> into a graph of inclusions:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>      https://gustedt.wordpress.com/2025/03/29/a-diagram-of-c23-
>>>>>>>> basic-types/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So much for C being a 'simple' language.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> C should be left alone. It does what it needs to do for a systems
>>>>>> language.
>>>>>> Almost no use uses it for applications any more and sophisticated
>>>>>> processing
>>>>>> using complex types for example are far better done in C++.
>>>>>
>>>>> C99 has VMT (variable modified types).  Thanks to VMT and complex types
>>>>> C99 can naturaly do numeric computing that previously was done using
>>>>> Fortran 77.  Offical C++ has no VMT.  C++ mechanizms look nicer,
>>>>
>>>> Officially no, but I've never come across a C++ compiler that didn't
>>>> support
>>>> them given they're all C compilers too.
>>>
>>> All C++ compilers are also C compilers?
>>
>> To answer my own sarcastic question: No way. :^)
> 
> So name one that isn't. Fairly simple way to prove your point.
> 

Try to compile this in a C++ compiler:
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#include <stdlib.h>
#include <stdio.h>

int main() {
   void *p = malloc(sizeof(int));
   int *ip = p;
   free(p);
   printf("done\n");
   return 0;
}
_____________

What am I missing?