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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer?? Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 19:05:05 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <vspah1$75m8$3@dont-email.me> References: <vs73jc$3jepm$1@dont-email.me> <vs7a9c$3pg3k$1@dont-email.me> <87tt7bo1wc.fsf@gmail.com> <vsaj17$38nej$3@dont-email.me> <87h63ak3e3.fsf@gmail.com> <probability-20250330153149@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <vscrft$2t8mk$6@dont-email.me> <x87jz84f1o0.fsf@somewhere.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2025 21:05:06 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a838268cadc40d8a0ecf633714aea4dd"; logging-data="235208"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19yoO3BSwXkWWHpjjb2DV6W" User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Cancel-Lock: sha1:q+uimCqWIKKxYsyid9XZG4OdtM0= Bytes: 2109 On Tue, 01 Apr 2025 10:31:59 -0300, Ethan Carter wrote: > Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes: > >> On 30 Mar 2025 14:32:46 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote: >> >>> |In spite of its superficial appeal, the limit frequency >>> |interpretation has been widely discarded, primarily because there |is >>> no assurance that the above limit really exists for the actual >>> |sequences of events to which one wishes to apply probability |theory. >>> | >>> "Quantum Mechanics" (1998) - Leslie E. Ballentine >> >> Discarded or not, it’s the definition used in gambling. In other words, >> people literally bet money on it. > > Discarded in its theoretical use, which is where the discussion is. I > think nearly nobody disputes how useful the limit-frequency > interpretation is. “The difference between theory and practice is, in theory there is no difference, but in practice there is.” I wonder who said that ... ?