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Path: ...!news.tomockey.net!news.samoylyk.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: (ReacTor) Five Unconventional SFF Road Trips Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 17:28:49 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <vspiuh$f0c4$2@dont-email.me> References: <vsjh67$1cb$1@reader1.panix.com> <vskgq5$324op$1@dont-email.me> <vsm4a2$rd3$1@panix2.panix.com> <vsmrn8$1j9s7$1@dont-email.me> <vsmujr$flb$1@panix2.panix.com> <ccuvujpit0o8a9l38bv2h8vf03q52egf3b@4ax.com> <PqTHP.95767$5e_1.34915@fx33.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2025 23:28:50 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e6ffdc89a83baeda923ad6d6f5303a9a"; logging-data="491908"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19QIvx3Hr2Y9YasUdueCND29I/TQB6kdpU=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:I/bdGJkGuuWVXGjJmQAoUOjyp4Q= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <PqTHP.95767$5e_1.34915@fx33.iad> Bytes: 2643 On 4/4/2025 12:05 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote: > Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes: >> On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 17:29:31 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott >> Dorsey) wrote: >> > >>> So... I am glad to see Apple bringing their plants back to the US, and I= >> am >>> sure they will hire some people who will make good money, but I am under= >> no >>> illusion that the kind of manufacturing jobs that we had in the = >> seventies=20 >>> will ever come back because they don't exist any longer in any country. >> >> If they build the plants from stock, then they will also be pumping >> money into the local economy's construction segment. Which should help >> a lot, at least for a few years. > > A significant fraction of that money is profit which benefits > a few shareholders for the construction conglomerate, > not the construction workers, electricians, et alia. > That's the problem. The wealth created will not be spread around. As it is today, a vastly disproportionate fraction will go to a very small number of people. I'd love to see a Phillip Jose Farmer's 'Purple Wage', the earliest example of UBI I recall from fiction, but barring politicians suddenly becoming immune to being bought off by unlimited contributions from corporations or billionaires, it just ain't going to happen. pt