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On 2025-04-04 05:28:07 +0000, anim8rfsk said:
> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> On Apr 3, 2025 at 1:04:37 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>> On 2025-04-03 19:46:14 +0000, The Horny Goat said:
>>>> On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 21:40:28 -0400, Rhino
>>>> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If I'm not mistaken, Queen Elizabeth II was an avid driver, having
>>>>> learned when she was a mechanic for military vehicles during WWII, but
>>>>> was not permitted to drive on public roads, at least as Queen. However,
>>>>> she loved to drive on the private roads on her estates, like Balmoral. 
>>>>> I distinctly remember seeing that depicted in a movie where the Queen
>>>>> (played by Helen Mirren if I recall correctly) was hauling ass around
>>>>> Balmoral in a Land Rover.
>>>> 
>>>> She was more than a mechanic - she was a military chauffer. It would
>>>> be interesting to know how much of that was real and how much for the
>>>> camera since she was after all the Princess of Wales and the next
>>>> monarch after her father.
>>>> 
>>>> As for your last point I saw the same movie (not surprising since I am
>>>> a massive Helen Mirren fan)
>>> 
>>> The royal family are, and do, sometimes drive themselves on public
>>> roads, including the Queen before she stopped driving on public roads
>>> due to her own concerns about her age (on her 93rd birthday) affecting
>>> the safety of herself and other drivers. She did still drive for a
>>> while longer on private roads though. She also taught her children and
>>> grandchildren to drive.
>>> 
>>> The current Queen / King is the only person in Britain who does not
>>> legally need to have a drivers licence nor even take the driving test,
>>> and also does not need a licence plate on their cars. The Queen / King
>>> also does not need a passport either.
>> 
>> How does the Queen exempt herself from other countries' laws regarding
>> passports?
> 
> Same way, the governor of Hawaii does.
> 
> Ways and means.

The Queen / King does not have to follow the same travel requirements 
as 'normal' people, e.g. getting passport visas, going through 
immigration / customs / security, etc.

The only other people on the planet who do not require a passport are 
the Emperor and Empress of Japan.

For these VIPs, all the travel requirements are sorted out beforehand 
via the appropriate diplomatic departments.