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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Rewriting SSA. Is This A Chance For GNU/Linux? Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2025 11:41:11 +0100 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 57 Message-ID: <vsr1c7$20tbs$3@dont-email.me> References: <pan$54963$b3f3d4e6$ae35ff46$71fe05c9@linux.rocks> <gXCdnTD2YLRBaHX6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> <m4tf1dFmvh3U1@mid.individual.net> <vsd0ui$365s0$1@dont-email.me> <vsds7u$2u8h$1@dont-email.me> <wwviknpb1iw.fsf@LkoBDZeT.terraraq.uk> <vsksb5$3df6l$1@dont-email.me> <ZI2dnQjwJajG9XP6nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <m581c7Fd22eU2@mid.individual.net> <DJOdnXslWrdAbHP6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <m58mnpFguqjU2@mid.individual.net> <vso5qc$31clb$1@dont-email.me> <E2WdnXiNaZ9CTXL6nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> <m5ao51Fr19rU2@mid.individual.net> <cpWdnQ1GweTBd236nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 12:41:11 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dba3d81f6f0eee3a847ad5e631b58534"; logging-data="2127228"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Te24ymSum10AnA1HC+t0VUgQu8UKXSUM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:idTtNn6lR2ZvXqMWVQjAs5zaoeE= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <cpWdnQ1GweTBd236nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> Bytes: 4087 On 05/04/2025 09:31, c186282 wrote: > On 4/4/25 2:53 PM, rbowman wrote: >> On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 08:30:23 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> On 4/4/25 4:38 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>>> On 04/04/2025 01:16, rbowman wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 16:38:57 -0400, c186282 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The 360/370 boxes WERE really popular, so I'm gonna GUESS >>>>>> there's a least one or two still chugging away. Maint cost >>>>>> would be insane these days ... but you can kinda bury that in >>>>>> the budget while new hardware stands out more and in more >>>>>> places. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure there are any little old ladies left to knit magnetic >>>>> core. >>>> >>>> Last time I looked they were little asian ladies wit teeny nimble >>>> fingers. >>>> Did all the coil winding in that factory. >>> >>> Look up "rope memory" :-) >> >> Then came twistor memory which begat bubble memory... > > Everybody had a trick back in the day. "Bubble" > wasn't bad really ... just couldn't push up > performance or capacity easily enough. Have you > ever looked into 'FRAM' - ferroelectric - mem for > embedded ? Much faster than flash, almost infinite > re-write capability, BUT they can't get the density > up much beyond the current, rather low, levels. It > still has a useful place (and I've used it) but it > has no "greater future" so far as I can discern. > > "Rope" was interesting because it was used in the > NASA lunar lander vehicle. Basically cores on loose > wire, and I think SPACING was important. Why the hell > did they use that in 1969 ? Because, the way things > work, the govt SPECS for the vehicle probably went > out the door before JFK even finished his moon speech. > That's where the e-tech was frozen for all intents. Project I worked on was undersea repeater for optical cables. Probably the worst organised and specified project ever, but that's a by the by. They said 'you are lucky we are allowed to use a silicon processor, up to 5 years ago we had to use germanium' 'Why?' Because that was the only technology more than 15 years old that could be guaranteed to last the 15 years' -- The lifetime of any political organisation is about three years before its been subverted by the people it tried to warn you about. Anon.