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From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: Re: Tariffs and bikes
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2025 11:50:26 -0400
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On 4/5/2025 9:35 AM, AMuzi wrote:
> On 4/5/2025 4:43 AM, John B. wrote:
>> 
>> 'Re Frank's post above... in early  America George Washington, a 3rd
>> generation slave owner,  assumed ownership of his first 10 slaves when
>> he was 11 years old. At his death there were 317 slaves  at Mount
>> Vernon.
> 
> True although most were acquired at his marriage.
> 
> Odd though that people do harp on him, and on Thomas Jefferson as well, 
> while exempting John Adams and Benjamin Franklin from that line of 
> conversation.

Washington and Jefferson were and are much more revered in the U.S. They 
attract much more attention, both positive and negative, than Adams and 
Franklin. But the same criticism has been directed at Adams, Franklin 
and others from time to time. Recently a lot of attention has been given 
to J.J. Audubon and his ownership of slaves.

I have never been in favor of slavery, but I recognize that our 21st 
century American views tend to oversimplify the issue. For someone 
living in 1776 it was a very complicated thing.

> And the same people have no time or attention for today's open slave 
> markets across the Gulf region, into Sudan and now, with the sudden 
> absence of French special forces, across the Sahel as the jihadis take 
> over.

That's "whataboutism." If those issues arose in conversation, I doubt 
anyone here would say "Well, those are OK."

There are an infinite number of injustices occurring around the world. 
It seems to me it's most appropriate for modern Americans to pay the 
most attention to the ones affecting modern Americans, and which modern 
Americans have the best chance at fixing.

> ... bashing Mr Washington is so entertaining.

My original remark wasn't bashing any individual. I was merely pointing 
out that 1700s blacks did not share the same opportunities as 1700s 
whites. Denying that truth seems absurd.

-- 
- Frank Krygowski