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From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org>
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Subject: Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 [Was: The non-existence of "dark numbers"]
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 15:08:24 -0400
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WM was thinking very hard :
> On 04.04.2025 23:12, FromTheRafters wrote:
>> WM wrote on 4/4/2025 :
>
>>> You are caught in a world of stupidity. Set theorists have damaged the 
>>> honour of human intellect even more than Pope Pius XII.
>>>
>>> When an element is added to a set, then this set is no longer the same but 
>>> different because the number of its members is different.
>> 
>> How do you know that they are not 'the same'?
>
> A set containing element x is not the same as a set not containing element x.

Then of course they are not "the same" but are they equivalent in size?

>> No bijection perhaps?
>
> There are no definable infinite bijections.

Yada yada yada,