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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FromTheRafters <FTR@nomail.afraid.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 [Was: The non-existence of "dark numbers"] Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 15:08:24 -0400 Organization: Peripheral Visions Lines: 21 Message-ID: <vsrv3f$30qp9$1@dont-email.me> References: <vqrbtd$1chb7$2@solani.org> <vrsb4p$1gv1d$3@dont-email.me> <vrsgn5$1lg8$4@news.muc.de> <vrujtd$3l4hv$1@dont-email.me> <vrusi3$10kn$2@news.muc.de> <vrv3c4$3vgl8$1@dont-email.me> <vrves5$1507$1@news.muc.de> <vs1l08$2cnha$1@dont-email.me> <3449b34c60603bf59f694df42857003d0bda7ab5@i2pn2.org> <vs1o24$2c93u$2@dont-email.me> <vs1s4h$26e3$2@news.muc.de> <vs4blb$eulg$6@solani.org> <vs6g7b$2mp5$1@news.muc.de> <vsjiud$22the$1@dont-email.me> <vsmmem$v6u$1@news.muc.de> <vsmr1s$1fvvf$1@dont-email.me> <vsp24j$2ovs$1@news.muc.de> <vspccl$8ai3$1@dont-email.me> <vspi02$fd6e$1@dont-email.me> <vsrubn$2vbtc$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 21:08:32 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b319212e9201ad50724e700ffbd443cf"; logging-data="3173161"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+T87WvYnuDERwFab/XJUXAYq+uXKSbweI=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:0J7EZObjuEJ2qyaz9DatENBNum0= X-ICQ: 1701145376 X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb Bytes: 2333 WM was thinking very hard : > On 04.04.2025 23:12, FromTheRafters wrote: >> WM wrote on 4/4/2025 : > >>> You are caught in a world of stupidity. Set theorists have damaged the >>> honour of human intellect even more than Pope Pius XII. >>> >>> When an element is added to a set, then this set is no longer the same but >>> different because the number of its members is different. >> >> How do you know that they are not 'the same'? > > A set containing element x is not the same as a set not containing element x. Then of course they are not "the same" but are they equivalent in size? >> No bijection perhaps? > > There are no definable infinite bijections. Yada yada yada,