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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2025 15:49:01 -0400 Organization: None Lines: 77 Message-ID: <vss1fe$32bre$1@dont-email.me> References: <hqbutjh5ct4kjj078ur38vnr772kp76qei@4ax.com> <vrngfl$vd5q$1@dont-email.me> <ehhutjlft3b11qb7cd6rq8ed410hg41lom@4ax.com> <vrpk5t$2v2e0$1@dont-email.me> <mrl0ujtuqdb4mg2tgd9n5aojemffs6is0r@4ax.com> <vrsjoi$1l5lu$3@dont-email.me> <cjp3ujt8q0273ljkeu7tbe647333lctnqq@4ax.com> <vrsueg$1u3ji$3@dont-email.me> <mj04ujldfmcth908kn938cicg8a5g895f8@4ax.com> <vrt00g$1u3up$9@dont-email.me> <0a34uj9pf5r7f4kneahsc4v6qgfq1684mi@4ax.com> <vrt57k$1u3ji$12@dont-email.me> <7j64uj172e6b9tat3v1n7gla57mml2ag0j@4ax.com> <vrt75c$1u3up$13@dont-email.me> Reply-To: OFeem1987@teleworm.us Injection-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 21:49:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d890d80152bfa4c3d1371817adfe12aa"; logging-data="3223406"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/vvXN049uoCHKBOyTor3pI" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:rqyy1egXu7PMFjg7MR2KTE2ur/E= X-Slrn: Why use anything else? X-Face: 63n<76,LYJQ2m#'5YL#.T95xqyPiG`ffIP70tN+j"(&@6(4l\7uL)2+/-r0)/9SjZ`qw= Njn mr93Xrerx}aQG-Ap5IHn"xe;`5:pp"$RH>Kx_ngWw%c\+6qSg!q"41n2[.N/;Pu6q8?+Poz~e A9? $6_R7cm.l!s8]yfv7x+-FYQ|/k X-User-Agent: Microsoft Outl00k, Usenet K00k Editions X-Mutt: The most widely-used MUA Bytes: 4620 Alan wrote this post while blinking in Morse code: > On 2025-03-24 19:54, Joel wrote: >> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> have used a hair of swap, with 32 GB, it happens after a while of >>>>>>>> running the computer and using things that use RAM. >>>>>>> So show it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why? What do I need to prove I'm telling you the truth about such a >>>>>> simple matter? >>>>> >>>>> Because it's easy, and if you could show it, you would. >>>>> >>>>> Not showing it makes you look like a liar. >>>> >>>> Do you think my collection of concurrently running apps would not use >>>> any RAM, or something? >>> >>> I think you could show us... >>> >>> ...if you didn't have something to hide. >> >> https://i.imgur.com/bNZVr8U.png > > You've just shown that you DO NOT need 32GB of RAM... > > (and that Linux isn't smart enough to count RAM in base-2). :-D That's not "Linux", that's just one GUI tool to measure RAM. For example, from "man free": free [options] OPTIONS -b, --bytes Display the amount of memory in bytes. -k, --kibi Display the amount of memory in kibibytes. This is the default. -m, --mebi Display the amount of memory in mebibytes. -g, --gibi Display the amount of memory in gibibytes. --tebi Display the amount of memory in tebibytes. --pebi Display the amount of memory in pebibytes. --kilo Display the amount of memory in kilobytes. Implies --si. --mega Display the amount of memory in megabytes. Implies --si. --giga Display the amount of memory in gigabytes. Implies --si. --tera Display the amount of memory in terabytes. Implies --si. --peta Display the amount of memory in petabytes. Implies --si. -h, --human Show all output fields automatically scaled to shortest three digit unit and display the units of print out. Following units are used. B = bytes Ki = kibibyte Mi = mebibyte Gi = gibibyte Ti = tebibyte Pi = pebibyte The "top" command (to show memory usage by process) has similar options. -- Largest Number of Driving Test Failures By April 1970 Mrs. Miriam Hargrave had failed her test thirty-nine times. In the eight preceding years she had received two hundred and twelve driving lessons at a cost of L300. She set the new record while driving triumphantly through a set of red traffic lights in Wakefield, Yorkshire. Disappointingly, she passed at the fortieth attempt (3 August 1970) but eight years later she showed some of her old magic when she was reported as saying that she still didn't like doing right-hand turns. -- Stephen Pile, "The Book of Heroic Failures"