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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: (ReacTor) Five Unconventional SFF Road Trips Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2025 14:07:52 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <vss636$37tpi$1@dont-email.me> References: <vsjh67$1cb$1@reader1.panix.com> <vskgq5$324op$1@dont-email.me> <vsm4a2$rd3$1@panix2.panix.com> <vsmrn8$1j9s7$1@dont-email.me> <vsmujr$flb$1@panix2.panix.com> <ccuvujpit0o8a9l38bv2h8vf03q52egf3b@4ax.com> <vsroma$2pilp$1@dont-email.me> <dIeIP.467286$d51.338360@fx46.iad> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2025 23:07:51 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="18e28a220fa15a39f270a0818f92454a"; logging-data="3405618"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/NTZgUAKnEhonCR0dutSxE" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:loTsnOig8J91cCPsVeEUmACG40E= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <dIeIP.467286$d51.338360@fx46.iad> Bytes: 3226 On 4/5/2025 11:33 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote: > Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> writes: >> On 4/4/2025 8:31 AM, Paul S Person wrote: >>> On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 17:29:31 -0400 (EDT), kludge@panix.com (Scott >>> Dorsey) wrote: >>> >>>> Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Apple just announced that they are going to move all of their computer >>>>> plants to the USA and spend $500 billion here over the next four years. >>>>> I call that a win. There are many more companies moving their >>>>> manufacturing back to the USA. I call that a win. Those will be lots >>>>> of high paying jobs. >>> >>> <snippo notes on how the robots have /already/ taken over> >>> >>>> So... I am glad to see Apple bringing their plants back to the US, and I am >>>> sure they will hire some people who will make good money, but I am under no >>>> illusion that the kind of manufacturing jobs that we had in the seventies >>>> will ever come back because they don't exist any longer in any country. >>> >>> If they build the plants from stock, then they will also be pumping >>> money into the local economy's construction segment. Which should help >>> a lot, at least for a few years. >>> >> One of the reasons the US is having an affordable housing shortage is a >> shortage of construction workers to build the housing. I suspect there >> isn't a complete overlap in the workforce building factories vs. housing >> but I'm pretty sure there is at least some. > > The other (and likely more impactful) reason is that it is far more > profitable for the home builders and contractors to build high-end > housing than affordable housing. Given the way some large investment companies are gaming the housing market to drive up the prices of ALL housing any "affordable" housing quickly ceases being affordable. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.