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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Proving the: Simulating termination analyzer Principle Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 01:52:56 +0100 Organization: Fix this later Lines: 23 Message-ID: <vssj98$3gd7d$3@dont-email.me> References: <vss56v$375du$2@dont-email.me> <vss6ie$389d8$3@dont-email.me> <vss7av$375du$8@dont-email.me> <vss7em$389d8$5@dont-email.me> <vssa6p$3b2j0$2@dont-email.me> <vssaot$389d8$8@dont-email.me> <vsshvo$3ipb5$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2025 02:52:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dbe7ec1ac8ffd7a60b5ada94cfd55d95"; logging-data="3683565"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19shBr5+oAV7HtI4Z+6wWFNn0+pdFhcAVffXgjiUQleUg==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:jR8FKHfbwLRJ26adu6xfMc8bvxg= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <vsshvo$3ipb5$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2065 On 06/04/2025 01:30, olcott wrote: <snip> > Everyone else seems to think that the correct way > to handle a pathological relationship between an > input and a termination analyzer is to simply ignore > the differences that this makes. THAT CAN'T BE RIGHT !!! Everyone else (i.e. not you) knows that you are attempting to square the circle, trisect the angle, and find the exact value of pi. You're ignoring Post, Gödel, Church, Turing, Kleene, Hoare, and a zillion other computer scientists, and you're trying to write a program that can't be written. The fact that you've written a program is neither here nor there if it doesn't do what's required... which it doesn't. -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within