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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.logic
Subject: Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic
knowledge
Date: Sat, 5 Apr 2025 22:11:32 -0500
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On 4/5/2025 5:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 4/5/25 5:01 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 4/5/2025 3:03 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 4/5/25 1:51 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 4/5/2025 2:30 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-04-03 18:59:15 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/3/2025 2:03 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-04-02 15:59:47 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/2/2025 4:20 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-01 17:51:29 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All we have to do is make a C program that does this
>>>>>>>>>> with pairs of finite strings then it becomes self-evidently
>>>>>>>>>> correct needing no proof.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There already are programs that check proofs. But you can make
>>>>>>>>> your own
>>>>>>>>> if you think the logic used by the existing ones is not correct.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If the your logic system is sufficiently weak there may also be
>>>>>>>>> a way to
>>>>>>>>> make a C program that can construct the proof or determine that
>>>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>>>>> none.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When we define a system that cannot possibly be inconsistent
>>>>>>>> then a proof of consistency not needed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But a proof of paraconsistency is required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When it is stipulated that {cats} <are> {Animals}
>>>>>> When it is stipulated that {Animals} <are> {Living Things}
>>>>>> Then the complete proof of those is their stipulation.
>>>>>> AND {Cats} <are> {Living Things} is semantically entailed.
>>>>>
>>>>> For that sort of system paraconsistency is possible, depending on
>>>>> what else there is in the system.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraconsistent_logic
>>>> Starting with a consistent set of basic facts (AKA axioms)
>>>> while only allowing semantic logical entailment thus
>>>> truth preserving operations does not seem to allow
>>>> any contradictions, thus paraconsistency.
>>>> Try to provide a concrete counter-example.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your problem is you are making the error of assuming the concluion.
>>>
>>> You can't tell that you axioms ARE consistant excpet by proving that
>>> the system itself is consistant,
>>
>> Counter-factual. A system with a consistent set of basic
>> facts can possibly have inference rules that derive
>> inconsistency because these rules are less than perfectly
>> truth preserving.
>>
>
> How do you know your axioms are consistant?
>
> You don't seem to understand that basic problem, because you are just
> too stupid.
>
> You can't stipulate that the axioms are consistent.
>
When tested against each other they have no
contradictions.
--
Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer