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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Tariffs and bikes Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 07:46:16 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 86 Message-ID: <vstpi9$27p9l$8@dont-email.me> References: <vsn7f2$1v127$1@dont-email.me> <cmtvujp4du2ueafd153951ipsg86rkf38e@4ax.com> <vsp0k4$3qc5f$2@dont-email.me> <vsp174$3nmvp$1@dont-email.me> <vsq314$u1ot$2@dont-email.me> <vsq4jk$1047i$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2025 13:46:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a234526dc6533b54861bf1ed0d8d1618"; logging-data="2352437"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18xEij6mRch4aKyfAo76vVf+lobzPuOaqk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:gJzGbkxzlQJXCZz3IJkgF1CL9wM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vsq4jk$1047i$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 4863 On 4/4/2025 10:30 PM, AMuzi wrote: > On 4/4/2025 9:03 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 4/4/2025 12:26 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>> >>> You can have whatever opinion you like but not your own facts. >> >> Heck, I thought it was fashionable to have "alternative facts" if you >> don't like the look of normal ones! Wasn't that made clear during >> Trump version 1? >> >>> USA has among the most steeply sloped tax regimes on earth, such that >>> the top 1% of earners pay roughly half of all income tax. >>> >>> https://usafacts.org/articles/who-pays-the-most-income-tax/ >> >> The USA also has some of the highest income and wealth disparity of >> developed nations. Granted, not as bad as many small 3rd world >> countries - but I think we should not be striving to emulate those. >> >> https://www.oxfamamerica.org/explore/issues/economic- justice/income- >> and-wealth-inequality/ >> >> I'd say that means our tax structure is still insufficiently progressive. >> >> And what should we be trying to achieve anyway? ISTM our nation was >> founded on the idea of doing away with a privileged class lording it >> over those purportedly of less worth. Also the idea of everyone (well, >> as long as their complexion wasn't too dark) getting an equal shot at >> prosperity. If nothing else, those ideas, if implemented, work toward >> keeping the masses content enough that they don't literally rebel. >> Rebellions are messy, unpredictable, and bad for bike shops. >> >> We now have a new privileged class, one that can rake in millions per >> year and pay lower rates than struggling middle Americans, in part >> because of clever deductions. Remember Leona Helmsley? "Taxes are for >> little people." >> >> And of course, any money made over $170,000 per year is free of Social >> Security duties. Because hey, one's third mega- mansion is much more >> important than better food for the family making $50,000 per year. Why >> should the ultra-rich help to keep Social Security afloat? >> >> > > The 'disparity' is a myth in that it counts only taxable earnings, > ignoring that fully half the country pays no income tax. Many of those > receive 'negative tax' payments and in fact dos very well on relief, > much better than many working people. > > Regarding wealthy citizens, we do indeed have some inherited wealth but > almost all the top earners are self made including an astonishingly > large number of legal immigrants especially Indian, other Asian and > notably Nigerians: > > https://africanmind.org/statistical-portrait-of-nigerian-americans- > accomplishments-paradoxes-and-misconceptions/ > > who seem to have learned to stay out of Poland Ohio and so do quite well > here. > > Your snarky racism comment is ridiculous. > > https://www.britannica.com/money/Herman-Cain > > https://www.the-sun.com/news/4916213/willie-wilson-how-became-millionaire/ > > Mr Wilson literally plowed fields behind a mule before taking his > talents elsewhere. > > Some black one-percenters (not the motorcycle type one percenters): > > https://247wallst.com/income/2024/08/08/meet-the-wealthiest-black- > americans/ > > Back to our mere millionaires: > > https://www.forbes.com/sites/korihale/2022/10/25/millionaire-status-is- > on-the-rise-with-52-million-people-joining-the-club/ > > There are 224 times more black millionaires in USA than the top 19 > countries of Africa combined. > > Go stick your racism somewhere else. Exceptions abound within all non-white or non-male examples. This in no way affects the facts around institutionalized racism in this country.