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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Tariffs and bikes Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 12:59:52 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <vsubu8$1f3fu$3@dont-email.me> References: <vsn7f2$1v127$1@dont-email.me> <cmtvujp4du2ueafd153951ipsg86rkf38e@4ax.com> <vsp0k4$3qc5f$2@dont-email.me> <vsp174$3nmvp$1@dont-email.me> <vsq314$u1ot$2@dont-email.me> <vsq4jk$1047i$1@dont-email.me> <vstpi9$27p9l$8@dont-email.me> <ohr4vj9srnoau6e6egtqp7lc1us7d7fk5u@4ax.com> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2025 18:59:53 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7a260b8c63459e7da9becbc8b81f6ab1"; logging-data="1543678"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/ze1o/Mb1c23kFxJDr4ohW+6AdjV7bfZg=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:oBXyZWAAiuiajw385T4xjddDWjY= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <ohr4vj9srnoau6e6egtqp7lc1us7d7fk5u@4ax.com> On 4/6/2025 8:13 AM, John B. wrote: > On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 07:46:16 -0400, zen cycle > <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Exceptions abound within all non-white or non-male examples. This in no >> way affects the facts around institutionalized racism in this country. > > Although perhaps not as obvious but what is basically "racism" exists > in many societies. As an example, here (Thailand) Americans are > generally considered rather stupid and are normally over charged. I agree that racism is extremely common throughout the world. I once read that human societies (from tribes up to nations) tend to welcome single foreigners as interesting temporary visitors, but tend to get much more skeptical when, say, clusters show up to move in. And when larger numbers arrive, it's treated as an "invasion." The U.S. is an oddball country. Its origin was based on (mostly inadvertently) killing off the aboriginals, leaving much of the land unclaimed; then on importing (mostly) Europeans in wave after wave to make productive use of the land. But each new wave went through the "invasion" gauntlet. "No Irish Need Apply" and all that. But most - Irish, German, Italian, Polish, etc. - were eventually able to blend in. Those of African origin could not blend in unless they were white enough to "pass." They're still considered part of an "invasion." And yes, that attitude has been in our institutions for a long, long time. -- - Frank Krygowski