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On 4/6/2025 11:59 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 4/6/2025 8:13 AM, John B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 07:46:16 -0400, zen cycle
>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Exceptions abound within all non-white or non-male 
>>> examples. This in no
>>> way affects the facts around institutionalized racism in 
>>> this country.
>>
>> Although perhaps not as obvious but what is basically 
>> "racism" exists
>> in many societies. As an example, here (Thailand) 
>> Americans are
>> generally considered rather stupid and are normally over 
>> charged.
> 
> I agree that racism is extremely common throughout the 
> world. I once read that human societies (from tribes up to 
> nations) tend to welcome single foreigners as interesting 
> temporary visitors, but tend to get much more skeptical 
> when, say, clusters show up to move in. And when larger 
> numbers arrive, it's treated as an "invasion."
> 
> The U.S. is an oddball country. Its origin was based on 
> (mostly inadvertently) killing off the aboriginals, leaving 
> much of the land unclaimed; then on importing (mostly) 
> Europeans in wave after wave to make productive use of the 
> land.
> 
> But each new wave went through the "invasion" gauntlet. "No 
> Irish Need Apply" and all that. But most - Irish, German, 
> Italian, Polish, etc. - were eventually able to blend in.
> 
> Those of African origin could not blend in unless they were 
> white enough to "pass." They're still considered part of an 
> "invasion." And yes, that attitude has been in our 
> institutions for a long, long time.
> 
> 

The general run of that is right.

Skips over a lot. Crispus Attucks for example.

Or the first person with a public record of property in 
black slaves was a landowning black man in Virginia.

The Censuses of 1830, -40, -50 -60 also show black 
slaveowners. (Indians owned black slaves too, but were not 
counted in the Censuses.)

The Indians here had well established patterns of slavery 
before any Europeans showed up.

and so on.

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
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