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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Tariffs and bikes Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 19:18:06 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 118 Message-ID: <vsv5ju$27j0o$10@dont-email.me> References: <vsn7f2$1v127$1@dont-email.me> <cmtvujp4du2ueafd153951ipsg86rkf38e@4ax.com> <vsp0k4$3qc5f$2@dont-email.me> <vsp174$3nmvp$1@dont-email.me> <ri60vjdqgso54pljoe2jb8dnumuatkoo4o@4ax.com> <vspd9o$983l$1@dont-email.me> <O1_HP.1535903$OrR5.782500@fx18.iad> <14v0vj1fa9gro9cebqto7l09mau54lh2td@4ax.com> <vsrf4j$2eqrb$1@dont-email.me> <vsrh7f$2ebas$1@dont-email.me> <vsriqi$2jo11$1@dont-email.me> <vstoj2$27p9l$5@dont-email.me> <5RyIP.18293$j2D.16486@fx09.iad> <vsui4s$vq7b$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2025 02:18:07 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9d96e79eec08a44cee51feb07580ebad"; logging-data="2346008"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18+KuJoJL3tcssJaIthJ2c5" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:WQ+qP0rVYdL5GtIhkkxni56TxUg= In-Reply-To: <vsui4s$vq7b$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 5288 On 4/6/2025 1:45 PM, zen cycle wrote: > On 4/6/2025 1:28 PM, cyclintom wrote: >> On Sun Apr 6 07:29:37 2025 zen cycle wrote: >>> On 4/5/2025 11:38 AM, Mark J cleary wrote: >>>> On 4/5/2025 10:11 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>> On 4/5/2025 9:36 AM, sms wrote: >>>>>> On 4/4/2025 5:59 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >>>>>>> On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 23:36:14 GMT, cyclintom >>>>>>> <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In California add to the top rate another 12%. plus >>>>>>>> gas tax, plus >>>>>>>> salews tax,plus 50% inheretance tax, property taxes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The California estate tax was reduced starting in >>>>>>> 2001 and ended in >>>>>>> 2005: >>>>>>> <https://www.sco.ca.gov/ardtax_estate_tax.html> >>>>>>> Since your mother died in 2019, you should have >>>>>>> noticed that there was >>>>>>> no estate tax. >>>>>> >>>>>> <snip> >>>>>> >>>>>> Besides there being no inheritance tax or estate tax, >>>>>> the first >>>>>> $13.61 million in value of an inheritance is exempt >>>>>> from Capital >>>>>> Gains taxes, thanks to the Step-Up in Basis rule. >>>>>> >>>>>> California ranks 35th in the country for property tax >>>>>> percentage, and >>>>>> thanks to Prop 13, long time homeowners pay a pittance >>>>>> in property >>>>>> tax, including on inherited property prior to December >>>>>> 16, 2020 (when >>>>>> Prop 19 took effect). >>>>>> >>>>>> With Prop 19, heirs get $1 million off the assessed >>>>>> value of property >>>>>> they inherit (or they pay the current assessed value, >>>>>> whichever is >>>>>> greater). Since Tom's property is worth less than $1 >>>>>> million, the >>>>>> property tax rate of any heirs would not go up at all. >>>>>> >>>>>> However California has the highest income tax rate in >>>>>> the country, >>>>>> which is why so many wealthy people establish >>>>>> residency in Nevada. >>>>>> >>>>>> Where Tom lives, the sales tax is a whopping 10.75%, >>>>>> but in nearby >>>>>> San Francisco it's 8.625%, more than 2% lower. For any >>>>>> large >>>>>> purchases he should go to San Francisco. In my city >>>>>> it's 9.13%. >>>>>> >>>>>> If Tom paid anything in inheritance taxes then his >>>>>> accountant was >>>>>> either incompetent or was stealing from him. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Many ways to view that or parse it. >>>>> >>>>> For 2023, selected states by population, annual budget >>>>> and simple ratio: >>>>> >>>>> Florida 24 million people, $116 billion budget = 4.8 >>>>> New York 20 million people, $122 billion budget = 6.1 >>>>> California 40 million people, $308 billion budget = 7.7 >>>>> >>>>> I don't doubt you that there are local differences of >>>>> sales tax and >>>>> property tax within California. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> California is however a high-tax State and the voters >>>>> seem to prefer >>>>> it that way. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Illinois is a high tax state and everyone is trying to >>>> get out who >>>> happen to be conservatives. The nuts running this state >>>> all are against >>>> anything that might be helpful that Trump is doing. Out >>>> property taxes >>>> are the 2nd highest in the nation. >>>> >>> >>> <trying to think of anything helpful trump is doing........> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wi8Fv0AJA4 >> >> >> >> >> Only you could think that at least three trillion dollars >> in savings per year isn't helpful in a time when we >> couldn't even pay the interest of the Biden national debt. > > Trying to thing of anything trump is doing that will result > in even the tiniest fraction of $3T........ > > > > +1 Once Congressmen start carping about ANY cuts in their district, its over. I've seen this movie before. Many times. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971