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Subject: Re: Regular MSNBC Guest: All Laws Passed Before 1965 Should Be
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Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2025 17:35:06 -0400
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On 4/7/2025 5:12 PM, shawn wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 15:45:58 -0400, Rhino
> <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-04-07 3:41 PM, Pluted Pup wrote:
>>> On Mon, 07 Apr 2025 12:05:38 -0700, moviePig wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/7/2025 2:36 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-04-07 12:44 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 7, 2025 at 1:30:50 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous" <weberm@polaris.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
> 
>>> That's a desperate definition of Fascism from wikipedia that tries to
>>> make it seem otherwise to every Communist movement and state.
>>>
>>> Here is fascism defined in American English:
>>>
>>> https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/fascism
>>>
>>> "a system of government characterized by rigid one-party
>>> dictatorship, forcible suppression of opposition, private
>>> economic enterprise under centralized governmental control,
>>> belligerent nationalism, racism, and militarism, etc."
>>>
>>> in other words, every communist state and movement, though
>>> the definition of communism in American English:
>>>
>>> https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/communism
>>>
>>> "a theory or system of social organization based on the holding of all property in common, actual ownership being ascribed to the
>>> community as a whole or to the state"
>>>
>>> Anti-fascists have often said that anti-communists are
>>> only about opposition to this very abstract definition
>>> of communism and never on any valid reasons.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> How many of those dozen or so qualities are necessary for something to
>>>> qualify as truly fascist?
>>>
>>> The 1930's usage of the epithet Fascist also includes
>>> anyone or anything uncooperative, so an engine that
>>> dies is a fascist engine and a horse that limps is a
>>> fascist horse, a gun that misfires is a fascist gun, re.
>>> the Hemingway book For Whom The Bell Tolls.
>>>
>>>
>> In other words, the language is just reverting to what it was in the
>> 1930s where everything is fascist so the word means nothing.
> 
> Which is no different from the term "Woke" which has devolved to
> essentially mean "I don't like this."

'Woke' originally had a positive connotation, but was flipped by 
persistent use with scare-quotes ...as anything would be.