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From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
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Subject: Re: California: 15 is Too Young to Ride in Front Seat
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2025 01:55:18 -0000 (UTC)
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On Apr 7, 2025 at 2:16:21 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 20:05:23 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2025 at 12:47:31 PM PDT, "shawn" <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>  On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 18:28:26 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
>>>  wrote:
>>>  
>>>>  On Apr 7, 2025 at 11:02:49 AM PDT, ""Adam H. Kerman"" <ahk@chinet.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>>   BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>>>>>>   Apr 5, 2025 at 4:32:10 PM PDT, Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>:
>>>>>>>   2025-04-05 6:02 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>   Wait, so California says children as young as 12 can "change their gender"
>>>>>>>>   and consent to life-altering medical procedures without their parents'
>>>>>>>>   consent (or even knowledge) but they're not mature enough to ride in the
>>>>>>>>   front seat of a car until they're 16.
>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>   The California legislature seems to be permanently set on April Fools Clown
>>>>>>>>   Mode.
>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>   https://ibb.co/4RnTHKLt
>>>>>   
>>>>>>>   They may have gotten the idea from the Brits. It's been illegal for kids 
>>>>>>>   under 16 (or it may be 14) to sit in the front seat in the UK for quite 
>>>>>>>   a few years.
>>>>>   
>>>>>>   My question (beyond the absurdity mentioned above) is what if you don't
>>>>>>   have a back seat? There are plenty of sports cars that only have a
>>>>>>   driver and a passenger seat and a lot of pickup trucks also don't have
>>>>>>   back seats. Do you have to go out and buy a whole new vehicle just to
>>>>>>   accommodate this silly law?
>>>>>   
>>>>>   As always, it's so much worse than you say.
>>>>>   
>>>>>   I have no idea what equipment is required in the UK. In the US,
>>>>>   passenger-side airbags are required. The driver's side airbag is much
>>>>>   smaller because of the proximity of the steering wheel but the dashboard is
>>>>>   farther away. In a crash, a child is in far more danger of a neck injury
>>>>>   from the inflation of the airbag than concussion from hitting his head
>>>>>   on the windshield.
>>>>>   
>>>>>   The statute requiring passenger-side airbags is routinely cited as
>>>>>   having done more harm than good, resulting in more deaths than lives
>>>>>   saved. Parents may put infants in car seats in the passenger seat. This is
>>>>>   not negligence but misunderstanding, for there's no reason why an infant,
>>>>>   properly restrained in a car seat in the passenger seat, wouldn't survive
>>>>>   a crash with just bruising. But due to the airbag's inflation, the infant
>>>>>   will die. Depending on how much an older child or teenager weighs, yeah,
>>>>>   the airbag might cause serious trauma or death when the seatbelt with
>>>>>   shoulder harness would have been sufficient.
>>>>  
>>>>  So if we're going to have an intrusive nanny-state law like this, shouldn't
>>>>  it
>>>>  at least be size based, not age based? Wouldn't Peter Dinklage at age 55 be
>>>>  in
>>>>  just as much danger as a 13-year-old?
>>>>  
>>>  
>>>  I should have read ahead.. Some pistachio almond ice cream headed your
>>>  way.
>> 
>> Just make sure it melts. I don't want any of that anim8r ice cream that can
>> sit on an Arizona sidewalk in high summer and not melt!
>> 
> 
> You don't want some Great Value ice cream sandwiches?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpdwJudCTlQ

Yep, I posted about this kind of freakish Frankenstein-like Anim ice cream
earlier in the week.