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From: zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 06:26:20 -0400
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On 4/8/2025 6:31 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 4/8/2025 5:37 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>> On 4/8/2025 5:25 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>> On 4/8/2025 3:43 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>> On 4/8/2025 2:52 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>> On 4/8/2025 1:53 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/8/2025 12:18 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you had a logical reason for driving your bike to the start 
>>>>>>>>> of a ride while leaving your helmet on the seat instead of 
>>>>>>>>> protecting your head, you'd give us that reason.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have given that reason several times (it's cleverly hidden in 
>>>>>>>> place sight, even in this message). You just don't like the answer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, you're playing games. If you had a good reason explaining why 
>>>>>>> you drive without wearing the helmet you have in the car, you'd 
>>>>>>> have given it explicitly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did, several times.
>>>>> Since I apparently missed it, why not state it concisely here and now?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've decided the benefits far outweigh the detriments ("if there 
>>>> comes a time when you do crash, a helmet/seatbelt can be extremely 
>>>> beneficial.")
>>>
>>> That's a rather vague and very general statement, especially with the 
>>> very low standard of "can be."
>>
>> As noted previously, I answered the question, just not to your 
>> satisfaction, which is irrelevant.
>>
>>>
>>> It's vague enough to apply equally well to knee pads, elbow pads, 
>>> chest protectors, steel toe shoes, hearing protection and probably 
>>> much more.
>>
>> yup
>>> It certainly doesn't address why you use that to justify a seatbelt 
>>> but not a motoring helmet.
>>
>> You don't see the detriments of trying to drive while wearing a bike 
>> helmet?
> 
> Hmm. I guess you'd look funny, but that applied to bicycling too, until 
> the marketing started working. I suppose if your car gave you less than 
> 1" of headroom it would be a problem.
> 

You've obviously never actually got into a car with your helmet on.