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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rolf Mantel <news@hartig-mantel.de> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: For those who believe in electricity Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 12:35:15 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <vt5ih3$e93j$1@dont-email.me> References: <vsvct9$2gcvj$1@dont-email.me> <vt0q7i$3vi0o$5@dont-email.me> <vt0sik$4nkm$1@dont-email.me> <vt0t95$3vi0o$8@dont-email.me> <vt0tl7$4nkm$2@dont-email.me> <vt0ufa$3vi0o$11@dont-email.me> <vt1ir5$ov7p$1@dont-email.me> <1pp8vjhi7qeh7f0d04m6cltsm8184n1l7k@4ax.com> <vt4002$2vfpp$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2025 12:35:15 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a099945d1f31bb054c98141717d0816f"; logging-data="468083"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18bthxkjt+5tgp4ESmdnqqk" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:IuTg2HH0AcXzmjI7kI5ecVQmi0E= In-Reply-To: <vt4002$2vfpp$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2482 Am 08.04.2025 um 22:12 schrieb sms: > On 4/7/2025 5:15 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >> Not going below 0V is the most common way PWM is used. However, it's >> not mandatory or the only way: >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-width_modulation> >> Note that the waveform shown goes below 0V. > Yeah, that is true, it's possible for PWM to go below zero, but that's > not the way it's normally used for LED light dimming or PWM fan speed > control. > > With LED bicycle lights, it's surprising that no bicycle light company > has a dynamo input into their battery powered lights. Even at only 3W > from the dynamo, you could power a high-end bicycle light at lower > power, and you could be charging the battery during daytime rides when > all you have on is the daytime running light. "No" is a not quite correct, "extremely rare" would describe the market better. <https://nabendynamo.de/produkte/scheinwerfer/ladelux/> Slightly more common: a "dynamo driven power supply" produces power to a USE output, and theoretially you can route that USB power into your bikt light but with no fine-tuned optimization the output is too low to make it worthwhile in any sense.