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From: BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
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Subject: Re: The People Versus John Oliver: The Murky Ethics Of Modern Comedy
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 19:19:17 -0000 (UTC)
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On Apr 9, 2025 at 8:52:18 AM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 4/8/2025 11:13 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>  On Apr 8, 2025 at 7:09:56 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>  
>>>  On 4/8/2025 7:07 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>    On Apr 8, 2025 at 1:58:43 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>    
>>>>>    On 4/8/2025 4:20 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>      On Apr 8, 2025 at 12:13:31 PM PDT, "moviePig" <nobody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>>      On 4/8/2025 2:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>        moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>        On 4/8/2025 1:04 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>        On Apr 8, 2025 at 10:00:28 AM PDT, "shawn"
>>>>>>>>>>    <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
>>>>>>>>>>        wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>        On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 16:46:14 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>        wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>        On Apr 8, 2025 at 1:30:43 AM PDT, "Ubiquitous"
>>>>>>>>>>>>  <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        Take Bill Burr, who insinuated Kyle Rittenhouse was a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> White Supremacist
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        during his Netflix special "Bill Burr Presents: Friends Who Kill".
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        Rittenhouse shot three people, killing two and injuring one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  during a 2020
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        fracas tied to the BLM protests. A court of law found him innocent,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        agreeing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        with his self-defense explanation. Elements of the press and the Left
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        insisted his actions were racist, even though his victims
>>>>>>>>>>>>> were white and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>        couldn't pin any racially-charged comments to the young man.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>        That's still the most bizarre aspect of that whole case: a white
>>>>>>>>>>>>    guy shoots
>>>>>>>>>>>>        two other white guys and the black grievance brigade starts screaming
>>>>>>>>>>>>        "raaaaciiism!!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>        Come again?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>        I think it's more of why he traveled across state lines to supposedly
>>>>>>>>>>>        protect a business.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>        And how was *that* racist?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>        That he ended up shooting some white guys doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>        get around the fact that he was there to supposedly protect the
>>>>>>>>>>>        business from BLM protestors.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>        So now it's racist to protect your property from vandalism and
>>>>>>>>>>  looting if
>>>>>>>>>>      it's
>>>>>>>>>>        being done by blacks?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>        Of course it is, if you ignore it when it's being done by whites.
>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>        He obviously wasn't doing that because the ones he shot were whites.
>>>>>>>>        
>>>>>>>>        And who the hell would sit back and let their property be looted and
>>>>>>>>    burned
>>>>>>>>        just because the perps were white, anyway?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>      The question of his racism is one of whether he sprang to this
>>>>>>>      interdiction because the alleged perps were black.
>>>>>>      
>>>>>>      Or the only ones burning down cities across the nation that summer were
>>>>>>    black.
>>>>>>      He went where the problem was.
>>>>> 
>>>>>    But what determines his racism is the matter of *why* he went.
>>>>    
>>>>    Only if you pre-suppose there was racism no matter what and the only issue
>>>>  was
>>>>    finding out its cause.
>>> 
>>>  Yes, we start with a not-too-risky premise that indeed there IS racism
>>> 
>>  No, YOU start with that because, like most leftists, you think everything is
>>  racist. 
> 
> I don't know which is more puzzling, the idea that there's no such thing 
> as racism, or you telling me what I think.

I'm puzzled by you implicit claim that I've denied the existence of racism.