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From: Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>
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Subject: Re: Presentism
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 16:11:46 -0400
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On 2025-04-09 2:49 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>:
>> 2025-04-09 2:17 PM, anim8rfsk:
> 
>>> Four hours ago, William Shatner posted this to the X:
> 
>>> "It's called Presentism and it was used wreak havoc on history several
>>> years ago when statues were torn down, books were banned and things renamed
>>> to prove how progressive the world had become.  Just listen to my opening
>>> monologue on Star Trek TOS on Paramount+. They intentionally garbled it on
>>> every episode because I say "where no man has gone before" That's
>>> Presentism at its finest hour."
> 
>> What does the monologue on Paramount+ say? I have ST:TOS in the enhanced
>> version but it still has the original monologue.
> 
>> Is it "to boldly go where no ONE has gone before" or have they gone
>> full-woke to the point where they list *all* the imaginary genders?
> 
> That was changed for Patrick Stewart to read in Next Generation.
> 
Yes, I know that. I'm just trying to understand what changes they've 
made for the version they're showing on Paramount+ now, which have 
apparently drawn Shatner's ire.

> In statutory language, unless it doesn't make sense, use of male gender
> implies female gender. No thoughtful person ever accused Jefferson of
> being anti-feminist with the phrase "All men are created equal". It just
> sounded more poetic that writing with inclusive language.

Yes, I know that, too.

I'm actually okay with Picard's phrasing, although I agree it is 
unnecessary pandering to feminists or whoever insisted the original 
wording was offensive.

But I will be horrified if it turns out that the Paramount+ wording says 
"where no man, woman, non-binary, pan-sexual, two-spirit, queer, 
homosexual, lesbian, asexual etc. etc. etc. has gone before".

-- 
Rhino