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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: Presentism Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2025 16:11:46 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <vt6ka3$m4f5$3@dont-email.me> References: <612471423.765915358.860971.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com> <vt6e01$m4f5$2@dont-email.me> <vt6fgn$165gg$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2025 22:11:50 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="07c96fe5fa842143f8c03e393d3fd790"; logging-data="725477"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19a25XHhXUjKozl/JCJEAhbARAs1O8kcJc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:LyO/cPSpyXlfUA8JPnBPuRaOxr0= In-Reply-To: <vt6fgn$165gg$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-CA X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 250409-4, 4/9/2025), Outbound message Bytes: 3067 On 2025-04-09 2:49 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>: >> 2025-04-09 2:17 PM, anim8rfsk: > >>> Four hours ago, William Shatner posted this to the X: > >>> "It's called Presentism and it was used wreak havoc on history several >>> years ago when statues were torn down, books were banned and things renamed >>> to prove how progressive the world had become. Just listen to my opening >>> monologue on Star Trek TOS on Paramount+. They intentionally garbled it on >>> every episode because I say "where no man has gone before" That's >>> Presentism at its finest hour." > >> What does the monologue on Paramount+ say? I have ST:TOS in the enhanced >> version but it still has the original monologue. > >> Is it "to boldly go where no ONE has gone before" or have they gone >> full-woke to the point where they list *all* the imaginary genders? > > That was changed for Patrick Stewart to read in Next Generation. > Yes, I know that. I'm just trying to understand what changes they've made for the version they're showing on Paramount+ now, which have apparently drawn Shatner's ire. > In statutory language, unless it doesn't make sense, use of male gender > implies female gender. No thoughtful person ever accused Jefferson of > being anti-feminist with the phrase "All men are created equal". It just > sounded more poetic that writing with inclusive language. Yes, I know that, too. I'm actually okay with Picard's phrasing, although I agree it is unnecessary pandering to feminists or whoever insisted the original wording was offensive. But I will be horrified if it turns out that the Paramount+ wording says "where no man, woman, non-binary, pan-sexual, two-spirit, queer, homosexual, lesbian, asexual etc. etc. etc. has gone before". -- Rhino