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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Cantor Diagonal Proof Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 10:51:22 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 20 Message-ID: <vt7t9q$2ik8d$1@dont-email.me> References: <vsn1fu$1p67k$1@dont-email.me> <vso3j4$2vbn4$1@dont-email.me> <vso3ov$2vems$1@dont-email.me> <vso4oc$30ine$1@dont-email.me> <vspb09$75m8$6@dont-email.me> <vsql1k$1lpck$1@dont-email.me> <vsqlve$1ktm5$4@dont-email.me> <vstlr4$q280$1@dont-email.me> <vsvvak$36pju$5@dont-email.me> <vt032q$3b5dv$1@dont-email.me> <vt74nu$1pl6i$6@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 09:51:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9b4a21209a9181fba4b7ec0042d3b531"; logging-data="2707725"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19f8Yad9JBRGEIMVv7k0bHF" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:xO3IAy/M1KoTa9BK9fuEJNdKycw= Bytes: 1976 On 2025-04-10 00:52:14 +0000, Lawrence D'Oliveiro said: > On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 11:40:58 +0300, Mikko wrote: > >> Even there, proving that a computable list of all computable numbers >> does not exist. > > But the ability to construct an infinite list of reals or computables is a > basic assumption of the Cantor construction. If you’re saying it’s not > possible to construct such a list, then that’s the end of Cantor’s proof. No, it is not. Of course, if there is no such list it immediately follows that there is not such list, so only the possibility that there is such list requires further consderation. There is no requirement that any such list (if there are any) is constructible. The proof is about every list, whether constructible or not. -- Mikko