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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Paul.B.Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: A short proof of the inconsistency of Einstein's physics Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 15:39:40 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 317 Message-ID: <vt8hdk$32q76$1@dont-email.me> References: <1832b7b12c9a5cee$977009$1494137$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <fPdJP.740908$C61.738163@fx03.ams4> <18349286ecf68808$1548374$1481196$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <vt5fko$bv3j$1@dont-email.me> <1834a086a0b1f662$1078993$1494137$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <vt6mcj$1e82r$1@dont-email.me> <1834dc9466bbe07f$1079021$1494137$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 15:34:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8c89881861b4d5f635ef4ebfd0018a80"; logging-data="3238118"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/knNRr+WClr8I9bl6VbrEe" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:nn6qlZPcNhaBRoosKOpfnMJzeqQ= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <1834dc9466bbe07f$1079021$1494137$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> Bytes: 11133 Den 10.04.2025 07:04, skrev Maciej Woźniak: > On 4/9/2025 10:52 PM, Paul.B.Andersen wrote: > > >> Den 09.04.2025 12:44, skrev Maciej Wozniak: >>> W dniu 09.04.2025 o 11:50, Paul.B.Andersen pisze: >>>> Den 09.04.2025 08:27, skrev Maciej Wozniak: >>>> >>>>> So, how was "second" defined in your moronic >>>>> physics in 1905, when your idiot guru lived >>>>> and mumbled? >>>> >>>> As 1/86400 of a mean solar day. >>> >> >> And since Einstein used the same definition of second as everybody >> else, then it is clear that his physics was inconsistent! >> Right? >> >> >> You are a real master in drawing logical conclusions. >> Congratulations! 😂 > > >> >>> Exactly. Your desperate tries of changing >>> the subject are no way changing the fact >>> that the physics of your idiot guru was >>> not even consistent, >> >> The subject was the definition of a second. >> Your blunder was that you didn't know the difference >> between a solar day and a mean solar day. >> Your claim that there are 86400 seconds in a solar day >> is simply wrong. > > Unfortunately, that is not my claim, that is > a derivable from the most basic definition > part of the physics of your idiot guru. Why do you lie about something which is so easy to check? > Den 03.04.2025 07:26, skrev Maciej Wozniak: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second >> As seen, the definition of second loved so >> much to be invoked by relativistic morons - >> wasn't valid in the time when their idiot guru >> lived and mumbled. Up to 1960 it was ordinary >> 1/86400 of a solar day, also in physics. Your blunder was that you didn't know the difference between a solar day and a mean solar day. Your claim that there are 86400 seconds in a solar day is simply wrong. > > >> To sum up: >> Old definition, a mean solar day is 86400 s ± 8.64 ms. >> New definition, a mean solar day is 86400 s ± 86 ps. >> >> Einstein could use the old definition. >> Modern physicists can not. > > Oh, can't they? What a pity :((( > Sane people, on the other hand - can't > use their ideological idiocy, anyone can > check GPS. Do you really not understand that to measure time to a precision 1e-15 you must use an atomic clock which has the very precise definition built in? Are you pretending to be that ignorant, or are you really that ignorant? > >>>> But if you need a clock which you can bring anywhere and >>>> still trust it runs at the correct rate, 1 second per second, >>>> an atomic clock ticking out seconds as defined by SR is the obvious >>>> choice. >>> >>> No it is not, anyone can check GPS, serious >>> people performing real (not gedanken) measurements >>> didn't even consider your ideological idiocy. >> >> I am not going to quarrel with you. >> >> I am telling facts. >> There are a lot of atomic clocks on ground and in space. >> The TAI network which is the base of UTC the time zones. >> >> These networks could not work with the old definition of second. > > Sorry, that is not any fact, that's > a very impudent lie, expected of course from > a relativistic idiot like yourself. But they > surely can't work with your ISo idiocy; if > they tried, they would soon loose the > synchronization - will you deny? > Of course, loosing it would be "proper" for > some religious maniacs, but it's still > something sane people are not going to allow. I note with interest that you claim the TAI network consisting of 450 atomic clocks doesn't exist. :-D I am not going to quarrel about that, but maybe you should look up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Atomic_Time > > > > >> > >>>>>> Now: an observer moving with c/2 wrt > >>>>>> solar system is measuring the length > >>>>>> of solar day. > >>>>> > >>>>> If an observer is moving at c/2 towards the Sun, > >>>>> then Einstein and Newton would agree that the observer > >>>>> in his telescope would see the angular frequency > >>>>> of the Earth Doppler shifted by ~ ω ≈ 1.73⋅ω₀ > >>>> > >>>> And is it THE RESULT OF MEASUREMENT according > >>>> to you? > >>> > >>> Yes of course. > >>> The observer will _see_ the Earth spinning fast, > >> > >> Will he also _see_ a clock of a person on > >> Earth running fast? Is THAT what your > >> beloved Shit is claiming? > > > > Yes! Did you really not understand that? > > Another lie, it claims exactly the opposite, > according to it in such circumstances the > clock will be seen as running slower. > Did you really not understand that? You are making a fool of yourself again. This is Doppler shift. You have just revealed that you are so ignorant of elementary physics that you don't even know what Doppler shift is. Congratulations. :-D > >>> >>>> >>>> The observer moving at c/2 relative to the Sun can obviously not > measure >>>> the proper length of a mean solar day. >>> >>> Some taboo or what? >> >> I said obviously! >> If it isn't obvious to you you can't be very smart. >> >>> >>>> >>>> The mean solar day will be measured to be 86400 seconds only >>>> by a stationary clock on the geoid. >> >> Measured by a clock in GPS orbit a mean solar day would be >> 86400.00003875 seconds. >> Experimental verified fact.\ > ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========