Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 19:48:01 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 42
Message-ID: <vt979g$3mujv$1@dont-email.me>
References: <slrnvvdflh.2rja1.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>
 <vt6r3l$1icte$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 21:48:06 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="e0351d78dc2bd3d98b9e9128600ba1ca";
	logging-data="3897983"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org";	posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+XwenxWDqlWoWGK8Zx2f7E543SuGoIGyU="
User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:WUbUQnqFL/s8YqUbSvmj6oXOydE=
	sha1:T/BxV2tWCPBH76zIYQjxI2+SsfY=
Bytes: 2881

Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> On 2025-04-09 18:40:03 +0000, candycanearter07 said:
> 
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote at 03:16 this Tuesday (GMT):
>>> On 2025-03-24 19:52, Joel wrote:
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I could use Agent simply for its archives of old messages, and use
>>>>>> another app for live Usenet functions, but I *like* using Agent, for
>>>>>> all its datedness, it still does what I like it to do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Right.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Meaning that Linux cannot fulfill all of your needs.
>>>> 
>>>> That's patently stupid.  I could use something other than Agent.  I am
>>>> using Agent under Linux.  Deal with that.
>>> 
>>> No. You're using Agent in an emulator under Linux; costing you
>>> performance, when you claim that your needs for performance are so high.
>> 
>> 
>> Wine Is Not an Emulator
> 
> It depends what system you're running WINE on as to whether it performs 
> as a quasi-emulator or a quasi-virtualiser, but either way it still is 
> not running the app natively either, so there is still a performance 
> penalty.
> 
> Then again, WINE and similar 'translation' apps are such utter crap 
> that only work on specific hardware and OSes that nobody with a brain 
> actually uses them. They screw up at the slightest update to either 
> WINE or the OS meaning you have to rebuild the "bottled app" yet again 
> ... and that's if you're lucky enough to get it working at all.
> 
> Trying to run Windows apps without actual Windows is always going to be 
> a ridiculously silly idea that will never work properly.   :-\

Except it does and has done for decades. The CrossOver payware software is
based on WINE so not only does it work but companies have established
themselves on it.