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From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: converting a 700,000+ line Fortran 77 plus 50,000+ line C++
 program to C++, part 2
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 19:52:41 -0000 (UTC)
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On Thu, 10 Apr 2025 14:39:02 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

> On 4/9/2025 7:35 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> This is why you have build systems.
> 
> I started using the first IDE (interactive development environment) in
> 1983 ??? with Turbo Pascal.  $49 IIRC.  It was a simply amazing way of
> doing things.  Nowadays, Visual Studio comes closest to the Turbo Pascal
> IDE but even it is not quite there.  Visual Studios lack of a decent
> Fortran compiler sucks.

IDEs tend to be limited in their build systems. They’re not flexible: they 
insist you build things their way.

> I moved back to build systems on the Apollo Domain in 1989 using DSEE
> but it was a downer compared to Turbo Pascal.  It did allow multiple
> user development teams to work together though.  We only had a few
> hallway fights on code conflicts, most were resolved by DSEE.

Back in the day, we called them “CASE tools”, and they cost €€€. Nowadays, 
they are just “developer tools”, and they are part of the standard package 
repositories.

The one thing Git does better than any other VCS is merging branches. No 
more hallway fights ...